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PalletTownlol2739

Surge


Alvin514

This is so true, it's so hard to push him without starpower or at least gadget, I got Surge from the brawl pass, but I only got his gadget like.. Few weeks ago.😅


PalletTownlol2739

Even a gadget isnt not enough for Surge


memey-man123

hes still playable without serve ice cold, but it definitely is important to his kit


Legitimate_Blood8748

No, I have rank 25 bibi and I had Power 7 without gadget.


MewfanPlays

u r built different ig


IAmNotCreative18

I got Surge like a few days after Season 3 started


drakeobane99

I have surge no star power and gadget at rank 22. It was pretty hard to push him though.


TalonflameBS

I actually bought his gadget, and his sp becuas I was so hooked to him.


Typic4l_TV

Fr


dumbguy-on-reddit_bs

THE only brawler who needs a minimum of a gadget to be playable


Unfair-Expert-1153

Sooo true, I didn't like him after unlocking him. But its been a different story after getting his gadget, now I am a surge main, and he's my only rank 25.


sadra1355

Hi im a mortis main and i hate you :)


PalletTownlol2739

A fellow player who get annoyed when Surge activates his Super and knocked back lol


sadra1355

You forgor the TP


PalletTownlol2739

Its free real estate


ElectraBrawlStars

I can actually predict a surge teleport, unless it's in a Bush than I understand you


Ictpro56

99% of surges are more predicable then new players with the tps. sometimes i just know they will tp on me and kill me so i just give up and stop resisting


sadra1355

If the surge hits once somehow no need to predict cuz it will come true in matter of a second. And they always have the super when they TP so yea i have to run which is useless i will die to another surge anyway


Electronic_Play1582

hello fellow surge main i also have surge as my only rank 25 and i hate assasins


Careless-Position352

Honestly he needs some sort of rework, he’s too dependent on his gadget mostly


MysteRY0234

Surge: Looks like I missed my gadget


Eddpox

They should just buff him and nerf the gadget


PalletTownlol2739

Surge definitely needs a buff or improvements like new gadget? Or nerf him or buff?


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Eddpox

Amogus


boneyguysogood

r/suddenlyamongus


KAAAAAAAAARL

Teleport go brrrrrrrr


BrawlStars_Collette1

Colette


brawlstars-peeper

Yeah I've seen some sweats without Collette maxed her sp and gadget just makes her better especially since shield sucks p1 btw


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Felipe_SD

And my friend has a r30 piper pwr 1, what's your point. The brawler sucks with star power and gadgets without them she's just useless. Can barely kill tanks. r20 is easy


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Felipe_SD

I mean any brawler can be pushed far with enough skill or carries so high trophies p1 brawlers aren't indicators of how good a brawler is. It doesn't matter if I'm better or worse, but I can assure you pushing a low level colette is infinitely harder than most brawlers (because star powers and gadget are the only good things about her kit) And yes piper is much easier to push than colette, but it was my friend who did it.


ThunderousBTz

Im trying to get Colette to r25… not doing to good… (i want her to be my first r25)


ILikeRedCurtains

I’ve got tips for you to get Colette to Rank 34, the largest grind til Rank 35. If you want more, look up Colette-


ThunderousBTz

Hol’ da fuq up…


Assassin_Fixie

You're lucky it isnt a *rule* in this Reddit


brawlstars-peeper

Happy cake day


ThunderousBTz

Thank you


Lmao_0w0

I got her rank 26 in solo try there perhaps with her first star power


Aricvin

Try pushing her in Kaboom Canyon or Safe Zone, she can pair really well with Byron too. You'll get r25 on her in no time


ThunderousBTz

Thanks for the advice, but uh… what game mode are those? (sorry im a bit stupid)


Open_Progress2715

Heist


ThunderousBTz

Oh. wait, heist? I never played Colette in heist…


Open_Progress2715

Heist is Colletes best gamemode. You have to try to cycle supers and use these on the safe.


ThunderousBTz

Oh, I didn’t know that


NimpsMcgee

Carl. I mean he's still useless even with power throw but without it he is unplayable


dontCare010

Definitely true


ToroAsterion

Mr. P...... prove me wrong


ILikeRedCurtains

Mr. P stands for Mr. Prove me wrong. Makes you think.


Particular_Length517

Oh it's not Peice of sh**?


ILikeRedCurtains

Maybe. Basically any word that starts with P will do.


Inevitable-Disk-1413

So… mr p*rn?


ILikeRedCurtains

Basically the CEO of [REDACTED]


zoozony

Mr. Pennies


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zoozony

No thats Mr. Pornies


M3zooz77

Oh hey its you again how are you everywhere?


cacasburla

mr p still exists?


VeeCeeJr

Mr penis


Every-Candidate9963

Loved mr p from start but don't know how they made him shit recently.


Piano_Leg_Pete

Speed gear


Every-Candidate9963

Yeah that's also a reason.


brawlstars-peeper

Yeah he sucks without them his shields I mean porters are more viable since literally any rushing brawler that doesn't run can kill him from max to buzz


brawlstars-peeper

Mortis he needs a gadget to do more damage/attacks and he can't go aggro without a sp plus he only wins games low lvl due to hiding or trolling by trying not to take damage :/ to specify I mean literally not taking any damage and letting your teamate do all the attacking using your dash for Only getting away I'm mainly talking about mortis getting second or less in solo power 1 or that one guy who got the first p1 mortis rank 35 I think bc he kept troll/juking players which It may have felt like trolling for the losers it was skill but he couldn't go aggro


ezeshining

Mortis without SP now also has the longer dash, which allows him to go aggro with ease. And yes, every brawler often tries not to take damage, that’s not trolling, that’s literally something everyone should be doing.


RedShankyMan

Mortis without gadget does 3700 damage in a burst, then just has to wait for 2.4 seconds until he dies or gets to attack again. If he gets knocked back or slowed he's dead


ArthurianI

Wdym 3700 damage on power one L


ADMINISTATOR_CYRUS

if that was what actually happens I would have gotten rank 25 mortis two years ago


RedShankyMan

no that's on power 9. 1260*3


SkylerDotTheBoi

Mortis is fine without gadget or sp, you just gotta be more selective when you attack someone - a mortis main


spelunk_in_ya_badonk

Avoiding damage is the opposite of trolling


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Surge, mortis, edgar


Shetkuso

100% agree


brawlstars-peeper

Edgar can't beat sandy without them but I wouldn't say you can't win a solo game or a heist game without his sp and gadget as long as he is leveled


GlacialPuppy226

Maybe surge and Edgar, but mortis is fine without being power 10.


Elonmunk6

I disagree. Her knock back ability, base health and damage, and movement speed is nice enough.


NathanielWolf

Yeah, I agree with your disagree. Bibi is great. I am a Home Run lover. The only people that find her "useless" without SP are the ones bush camping to R30 with batting stance.


Elonmunk6

Facts


Arianna_illustrates

Yeah honestly I find her gadget pretty bad (it’s probably partially my poor timing) but either I activate it and then I’m dead or I activate but then nothing is hurting me so it was pointless


Elonmunk6

That’s a good point I agree. Her gadget doesn’t provide the quick enough or large enough healing per second.


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BruhMoment69420op

Bruh 💀 power 11 bibi and ya cant get past 800


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BruhMoment69420op

!RemindMe 1 month


BruhMoment69420op

Lets see if you get rank 30 lol


MyNameBelongs2Me

Idk I got her to 600 trophies without the gadget. The gadget didn’t change much


BzyPlayz

Penny


Due_Effective_3956

1 Surge 2 Edgar 3 penny 4 colette 5 Lou 6 Jessie 7 gale 8 piper 9 Brock 10 shelly My opinion Edit: crow between gale and piper(can't believe I forgot him), piper9 brock10


EmViGo8Spain

Supercell should do the same thing they did to mortis' coiled snake and Darryl's steel hoops to Colette's push it She is sooo trash without it


mr_ziro

I completely agree


Oreo107710

Gale would still be okay i mean.


Inconnu_TTB

Mortis maybe. But Surge are really useless without. Also Crow


brawlstars-peeper

Not crow crow is mainly weak without sp and gadget mainly due to low damage and health (in level aspect) but his slow is rly good so I'd say debatable because he is overpowered in some aspects


G0ldenDog

long range + preventing brawlers from healing makes him a decent brawler without gadget or sp.


ByamMeo357

as a crow main id say that he's overall great, esp the super and poison. however, his shield gadget is really underwhelming, and his damage output is quite low although his utility is really high. Both his star powers are not bad and are quite useful. Overall, id say he can be balanced through less poison dmg per tick but being able to stack poison like byron to charge his super easier. i think this way he doesn't lose his main utility to prevent healing bu also doesn't become massively overpowered while being buffed at the same time


Inconnu_TTB

I know, Crow is great but his kit (gadjet and sp) really makes him better. I agree with you


Inconnu_TTB

Yes, but in high trophie level, Crow power 9 without sp or gadget is good but not the best. But with his kit, he became really strong. But you're not wrong


ThunderousBTz

Surge


TheChainedGod1

Mortis


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Edgar :(


R3ddit_Manager

Ruffs


Riff_Raff6

No, he's just a bad brawler overall I word it worng, he's a little below average in some maps and throphy ranges


Orange_up_my_ass

He's actually very *useful*. Not good, yeah. But *useful*. That's why he was used so much in the World Finals.


VGHero06

I feel like Ruffs is one of the brawlers that’s too balanced.


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Amalgamate_Frisk

His star power that increases fellow Brawlers' max HP helps A LOT in the Boss Battle event, where brawlers can just camp by Ruffs and eventually gain 10k hp


anglesideside1

He’s only bad if his teammates are bad. If his teammates are good, then he’s top 10.


Admirable_Jeweler_33

100% Edgar and Mortis


xxxtentacles_10

Edgar overpowered anyways damm near no brawler can beat him


Azure_birch

Shelly


Grouchy_Raccoon_6759

Surge. One of the most OP brawlers when leveled up during the game but needs extras. Bibi. Useless without gadgets, not much better with them Mr P. Weak overall, decent buff on correct maps and game types with extras.


Accomplished-Ice-644

Surge without his gadget is trash. With his gadget, he's broken


Chillake_duncan

Now that's what i call a bad brawler design


Ojas_thebest_95

I would say surge


Manta157

Griff is basically unplayable without his first sp


Adamyupitsme

his supers good


lego_maniac04

That's not true, I use him all the time with second so and he functions well


Genichi12

But first SP is very very welcome


Zelcra

Very true. He gets a ton of value out of 1st SP - he attacks faster (unload speed buff) which improves his burst, and the unpoad buff also indirectly buffs his reload (due reloading being slower when mid-attack). 2nd helps a bit, but 1st provides more value overall and gives him an advantage in 1v1s and also in the long-term to the extent that 2nd does not possess.


Ditto13248

Bo


RelativeSpace_e

Yep, without Circling Eagle or even his totem, he's just dead weight


Thelightinggene

Jacky


christybaby1998

Surge


Surgeiz_op

Tara she’s just bad without it


8rok3n

I personally love Tara and I barely use her gadget or sp, though the help from beyond gadget is very useful sometimes


Mr_DankIW

doubt. The only reason i lose to that gambit ripoff is because she spams her gadget as soon as she takes 1hp of damage


Nomonkeybutmonke

Other then surge, stu gaso heal is so broken and zero drag is good to, breakthrough is great in showdown while speed zone helps u alot in 3v3 especially in seige


Mehryad1

Literally every legendary brawler


Enoughplez

Meg can use the mech to apply pressure, amber and spike do a duck ton of damage, and sandy has utility with his super


Mehryad1

Also meg and sandy star powers are insane Amber is the only one that can be good without sp


Mehryad1

Wait you just said spike is good without sp?


Enoughplez

Not good.. but not bad either


ILikeRedCurtains

Sounds like what the art teacher said to the little German boy-


DragonfruitGuy

r/cursedcomments


sans240sN66

After he made an art with gasoline


djmaybenot

the big issue with spike is spike’s health, but that’s balanced out with high burst damage when close to spike. Even at long range, spike has decent damage. The star power either changes the direction of the spikes in his attack or improves spike’s sustainability.


DESTROYED_BY_D

lou


Tat2feuille

Dynamike, he needs his stun gadget to kill mortis and tanks


TieHot1322

the mortis would have to be either really trash or out of ammo to get stunned


Tat2feuille

You can brain the mortis by pretend to dynajump one side but go the other side. Dynajump is too underestimated, it's just that you have to be experienced to use it well


RedShankyMan

luckily for dyna, he just needs to avoid 1 shot for the mortis to be out of ammo for 2.4 seconds


winterealics

Edgar only got meta because of fisticuffs


Aricvin

His star powers dont help much, its because of his 2nd gadget (Hardcore)


RangingMajesty

Bibi? Really... Her gadget and starpowers aren't that good or anything, it's just a little bit of healing and some speed


kizi_killer

Do tou have any idea how much "little healing" Actually do? And any kind of a speed bonus on a close range brawler is really strong


Thick_Independent368

gale


ThekillerbgYT

Meghan


EmViGo8Spain

Either surge or Leon (that invisiheal and lollipop go brrr)


ElyKcolud8262

Noooo it’s lou


luigiMZ

Surge is a MAIN GADGET!


Wboy2006

Edgar, he is useless without his "Let's fly" gadget


Andy123BS

Surge


Aromatic-Lawyer-3589

nita and tara both


A_Spoon546

Surge


Monsieur_Puma

Surge-without gadget-…


Amber_loves_Femboys

Eggar


Satyamfrantic8

Mr.p without the range sp lol


Apoorvdandem

Mortis


Limed_Out

Mr P, I had an easier time pushing Colette to Rank 25 than I had to push him to 15, Once you get his stuff he is a lot better, but still unfun to play.


JSM_1717

the worst without gadget or star power is carl, and even with his star powers and gadgets is carl the worst brawler, but no, they keep nerfing carl, the poor thing is already more than dead in the meta


luca_bazooka3

I think Colette takes the cake here


MisterScary132

Jackie, wait she is useless even with the star power


Heber_2019

Nita. Her bear is great but the gadgets and star powers all make the bear stronger and better.


ILikeRedCurtains

A teenager without an iPhone (gadget) and a WiFi (starpower).


NakSenTr

Iphone? I guess i hate gadgets


Tande06

Gaming chair (gear)


Mr_Sunny0711

8-bit


Kilurie

nita


KrzyKll

Shelly relies heavily on Clay Pigeons and Band-Aid


pheromone_fandango

No she doesnt, dont use band aid


gwartabig

Leon and to a lesser extent Spike


Iranoutofname5

Edgar, one hundred fucking percent, he is prob the worst designed brawler ever gameplay-wise, his range and HP is so low that you need to have a passive super charge AND a gadget that fills his super cause he can't do it himself, even pre-trait el primo can charge his super. His range and HP is so shit that he needed passive lifesteal cause you can literally walk backwards and he'll be losing 3/4th of his HP just to reach you if he misses or just outright die. There is a reason why he was a free brawler upon release.


Shivam-JOJO

second is bull 🐂


NakSenTr

bull is good without gadget or sp just hard without second gadget


ILikeRedCurtains

third is shit 💩


EHDeadshot

Hmmm this is hard id sayyyy crow cause of his slow gadget


djmaybenot

imo crow is pretty sustainable without his star powers or gadgets. crow is rlly efficient in decaying the enemy’s health


Orange_up_my_ass

True, I got him to Rank 20 in 2 days at Power 1, he's pretty ok even without gadgets and Starpowers.


EHDeadshot

Thats in solo showdown and duels but in 3v3 games he is useless without the slow gadget cause when he slows an entire enemy team then GG


djmaybenot

there’s so many ways to counter crow’s slow gadget. Also, you’re looking at his poison too utility-wise. It’s not always about slowing the enemy. If you have a good teammate, you can use crow to drain the health of the enemies and your teammate can kill them. Simple. I used to main crow way before he even had gadgets, and i can tell you that his playstyle changed the moment his gadget came out. He’s a very flexible hero and it doesn’t matter which mode you play. It matters more on the map.


brawlstars-peeper

YES I HATE THE 4 SECOND SLOW but he can still win without his sp as long as nobody touches him but yeah it's sooo debatable bc of slow


brawlstars-peeper

Is it sad to say squeaks is kinda the same


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Edgar


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Shetkuso

Leon is still viable w/o gadgets. Surge is lowkey unusable without gadget


SWAGilicous15

I would disagree really. I think he is still very useful without them but I think his gadgets and star power make him op but he isn’t useless without them imo


ILikeRedCurtains

He’s really useful for washing the dishes and taking out the trash.


Imaginary-Log393

And why it's Brock?


Smakerooza

uhh ur wrong its gotta be bull


some-randumb

partially gale


Professor_1620

Ruff is useless


Real_Kamboku

Bo


scrappy2546

Shelly, Bull, Brock, Bo, Penny, Carl, Piper, Bibi, Edgar, Mortis, Mr. P, Crow, Gale, Surge, Colette, Lou, Nita (maybe)


Chillake_duncan

Shelly is useless without slow Bull's super is unusable and actually puts him at a disavantage without the stomper gadget Jessie is still good without starpowers Brock's starpowers don't really change much outside of heist and solo showdown but his jump gadget is a must-have Bo's circling eagle is the only gamechanger, and even that is highly situational, he used to have the totem but it sucks nowadays Penny is so fucking awful man, she is useless on her own, all of her starpowers and gadgets focus on her mortar so she is completely vulnerable no matter what level she is Carl is shit either way Dunno about jacky Piper is definitely useless without that pushback gadget, she is so reliant on her super without it that you can spawncamp her Bibi is useful without gadgets imo, she is just not a good tank or a good assassin without them Edgar's gadgets and starpowers are just boosts of his normal kit lmao, he is still viable without them, you just have to wait for that super Mortis used to be useless without gadgets and sp, but now the long dash and the amount of squishy brawlers make his base form not too bad Mr. P might even be worse than carl Sprout's SP and gadgets don't give him anything that he is useless without Spike? Nonsense I agree with crow, he is too squishy Leon? Nonsense Amber? Bullshit Gale? Eh, he is still viable and good at what he does without SP and Gadgets Surge might be OP but his base form is truly unplayable Colette is so goddamn boring Lou? His SP and gadgets don't do anything significant Nita definitely needs gadgets and starpowers