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shadowclone515

A short breakdown: The Weapon is infused with Heavy Affinity which means it can be enchanted. Normally any fire enchant would dispel the frost build-up and vice versa, but using Ice spear still applies frost bite and still applies the black flame blade dps. Lastly, a single normal hit with black flame will dispel the frostbite status, allowing you to proc frostbite again immediately after.


Skillious96

Oh yeah, it’s big brain time


representativesign03

How do you find stuff like this?


Oddstag

“Man it would be totally broken if…” “Yeah that’s totally broken.”


i_am_exception

Experimentation, a lot of it. I have done this a lot in this spot and gate front with spells, buffs & catalysts.


MoistDitto

"I wonder if.... Okay that didn't work, but maybe... What if... Perhaps... Oh, this seems to work" *God slain* -patch notes, this doesn't seem to work anymore-


doogie1111

You are now Blackflame Friede


DrPopNFresh

So to dispel the frost buildup you need to do an regular melee hit of some kind. The blackflame DPS doesnt remove it?


pbmm1

damn, if only i was still playing id try this right away


Greasy_Fish

Nice.


Tobi-Is-A-Good-Boy

Sister Friede would be proud of this build.


MaleC_um

Same can be done with the Ash of War: Gravitas, Beast Roar, Glintsone Pebble, Glinblade Phalanx even with Lightning Strike. Probably with any projectile or aoe ash of war


Donkston

Blackflame gravity AoE? :o Yes please.


shadowclone515

Yeah, I was messing around with blackflame since it casts very fast. But so far it's ice spear that seems most useful for me for that frostbite, and you can proc frost again thats the main kicker. The Glintblade Phalanx blackflame is a close second for me.


ItachiSan

Can you do bloodflame blade with it? Building bleed and frost, and the fire off sets the frost


shadowclone515

It should work, but the main advantage/trade off of black flame is that it has very fast cast animation but very low duration.


HappyButtcheeks

ok now i wanna try bloodflame with glintstone phalax


OhMyDayus

Literally had that exact thought!


thisguy30

Waves of Darkness should work as well.


ClingerOn

Spectral lance too, and the bloodflame blade incantation.


sevryn1

So the idea being cast bloodflame/blackflame and then using the ash of war applies the DoT too? With the bonus of blackflame removing the frost debuff?


PayneWaffen

Blackflame have some serious synergy with ash of war. I always use blackflame + gravitas, blackflame + spinning weapon, blackflame + Storm assault.


sevryn1

How does the blackflame+gravitas work? I’m thinking of making a melee build that uses gravitas, but it’s rarely seen and I’m thinking it’s for good reason? 😂


PayneWaffen

Iirc, basically it dragged the enemy to your location (also disable flying enemies like birds) + Deal initial gravitas magic damage and then apply the blackflame hp% dots on enemy. So basically an aoe version of black flame dots + Gravitas magic damage lol. Its pretty useful to deal serious damage to all the mobs around you since the blackflame also dots them, not to mention gravitas posture break.


Low_Engineering2507

Don't tell the pvp players


DripLordWolnir

Nah nah this stuff is actually fair and cool


Greasy_Fish

FS nerfs when the see a problem, not when the PvP community complains. Relax. Stop pretending this shit isn't OP for PvE. It'll probably go unnoticed though because it requires a slightly more complex series of buttons other than just L2


Vigcheck

Man is getting downvoted for speaking the truth. Pve players want to rofl stomp the entire game with a single button press and when they can’t they blame people who actively keep the game alive? Unsure why the game should be broken just so Johnny and tommy can play for a hundred hours and never touch it again


avbigcat

What does the ice spear damage itself scale with?


shadowclone515

If I'm not mistaken, any damaging ash of war scales with the weapon level and how high the stat scaling you have with the weapon you use it with. Since I build str I just choose str for the raw damage, but I think higher arc will affect how much the frostbite proc/burst damage is, and higher faith will affect how much dps is dealt by the black flame. Edit: Int scaling for increasing frostbite dmg.


WenAndNow

Increasing stats will up the base damage of attack and spells but the % of damage from frostbite and black flames burn is a consistent value, a % of the enemies whole health.


Mrpenguin47

Black flame DPS does a flat percentage, around 2% per application


Maivens

I think it's intelligence.


shadowclone515

Oh you're right, i always thought procs damages were tied to arc, cheers.


Psyduckdontgiveafuck

Buildup is tied to Arcane IF the weapon gets arcane scaling. Otherwise buildup isn't even affected by Arcane IIRC. The damage on weapon skills are tied to whatever their base affinity is. I.E. frost and magic are primarily int, Heavy ones strength, etc etc. Tho it seems most spell schools get a small boost from dex, some get it from strength, then lightning is dex, fire gets no scaling, flame art gets faith etc. It's weird.


Fex__Fox

Name of spear? Im on NG+5 and still haven’t come across this weapon yet.


crispy-wings

Nightrider glaive


imMellow

Looks like a gargoyle axe


Ir0n_Tomato

fires deadly sin and black flame procs together, if you just stand near they burn to death. possibly a bug. Not nearly as broken as bloodflame blade building up bleed. But it helps my mordekaiser cosplay


DripLordWolnir

It makes FDS actually do damage atleast


MistaCheez

Fire's Deadly Sin also still works with Bloodflame, frost, pretty much everything that wasn't specifically patched out it seems like.


SquareNegotiation862

Do you know if this works with spectral lance as well?


shadowclone515

The weapon has to be a non elemental affinity i suppose so that you can buff it. But if you're asking if spectral lance can carry the enchantment of your weapon then yes.


SquareNegotiation862

Awesome thank you


argusoftheeast

thank you


Arkhel_

What’s the red circles of symbols on the ground? That doesn’t look familiar at all


TheCatAteItsOwnBalls

Bloodstains from players in your password group


Vorrdis

Working as intended


FairYou2539

Took a lot of hits to kill him. I'll stick with the bonk tactic


Ramstab

What is the weapon called? Liking the moveset!


These_Spite

Nightrider glaive


Ramstab

Thanks, thought so too!


boneheadbrown

Black flame blade and blood flame blade have a lot of symbiotic reactions with ashes of war. Some are definitely over tuned but this one seems fair as it's very strong in pve and fairly strong but easy to avoid in pvp.


Kenzorz

This works with Thunderbolt too because that AoW wasn't good enough already apparently. 🙄


ColonelJinkuro

Billy, you're a genius. Go get laid. You've earned it.


PotatoPotluck

I just wish Ice Spear had a bit more range, because whenever I'm at a distance and use it, it misses.


Drunken_Scribe

So, you run this a strength build, but with just enough faith to cast the weapon buff, is that correct?


shadowclone515

I'm specced first into 80 str, and slowly adding points to faith till i reach 80 faith in lvl 200 or so and staying there. I was just really testing things out when I found this gem, should be really good on 80 faith and/or int.


invadertaz

Ice spear carried me up ng+5 with ease, using godskin peeler.


[deleted]

Does this work with bloodflame too? I wish Black flame was up for as long as bloodflame is. Can this be achieved with Keen affinity too, for dex builds?


shadowclone515

Yes and yes. I personally like bloodflame Glintblade Phalanx.