By - DanHassler0
Increased my position, holding 400 shares
We are under attack. Let’s go NIO…. Holding 4125 shares now and I ain’t selling shizt
How many cars in Norway are they expecting to sell for the September totals? if Nio House does open on the 30th - I doubt this will help us at all with the September numbers?
I doubt with all ship delays the cars will be ready for delivery in Norway until late Oct. or Nov. so might have some included in October figures. Everything is slowed down deliverywise for everybody.
Hold strong this is a great company. The technological movements, this company has made in the last year have been innovative. Sit back and enjoy the ride it will take you on. There’s so many new things yet to come. NIO will be a Power House.
Sit tight if you can hold on in the storm to see the rainbow. It’s there.🌈.
Nio. The perfect storm. Really scary like never before.
Norway's nio house opens on 09/30, not 09/23
Stop spreading FUD from not researching.
23rd September 2021 Norway NIO House opens as per NIO conference:
So, is the news from 2weeks ago more accurate or the news from a couple days ago more accurate?
ES8 pricing released for Norway 23rd September same day as NIO house norway. Straight from presidents mouth.
things change, dude
Where do you see that- I just searched and all I got was 9/23
I got it from the Nio app. There's some events on 09/30 about the opening of the Norway NIO House
The news I say was from 3 days ago saying the 23rd
Someone also mentioned this was the date that was coming up on google maps
I see it on google map as the 1st, but the last article from 3 days ago says the 23rd?
Looking forward to October and beyond.
Ugh, this sucks. What are they going to try and sell 500 cars in a day? What are we expecting realistic deliveries to be in Norway by EOM? They can't miss guidance 2x in a row.
Well glad the sun set on today. Moving right along. 😂
Just another day! Just like ET7 launch will be just another day. Just like the pandemic blew over, just like the chip shortage blew over, this Evergrande thing will too
Most of the “ccp interference/regulation” is all hyped up by the media. CCP is doing the same as the US or EU by enforcing anti trust, regulating sensitive data and etc. how many times did FB or Google executives tested in congress for privacy, anti trust and selling our data? The media dont blow up on those and their shares dont get hammered.
VERY True, when will it blow over though or become digested/normalized by the markets? A few weeks? A few months?
The whole evergrande crap will be over in weeks. But the whole ccp thing is not going away until the tension between the 2 countries eased up. The media will continue this biased reporting so long the tension is still here which is shameful. Given the ties dont get worsen, i think the market will become bored of it and just move on. I agree 2022 is the big year for Nio. With 3 additional model, higher capacity from NEO park and ease of chip shortage, we should see delivery grows FAST.
The delay of the HK listing was due to NIO trust and they have to negotiate or restructure to make it work as Li Bin donated 1/3 of all his holdings into that trust. Rumor says not until 2022. This is part of the reason why nio diluted again becuz they had to push back the offering for hk listing. Now remember Li and Xpev did hk listing in the recent months. So if ur competitors are building up war chest, u dont want to get left behind.
We might even see a mainland listing in the near future. I am more excited on this one was nio is getting more and more popular in mainland china. Their shares on mainland exchange such as SSE will fetch much more interest and attention. This will help to ease up some of the hates/discrimination they hv on the us exchange.
Down 7k today…
Down 27k today.
Down 5k today
Down 14k here.
Down 4k bummer
Down $16,000 today😞
Ouch. How many shares you got?
5329 at an average of $47. Things aren’t looking to hot for me
Mid 40s here. 1800+ sh
Stock panic as usual. Now back here to group therapy
I feel angry and tired. And poor. Definitely poor.
😞 so sorry but nobody said it will be a smooth ride. Hang in there
I’m in a margin call 😂
Be careful here. The Evergrande thing may not blow over immediately - you don’t want to get force liquidated.
Let’s goooooooo NIO .
Nio gonna get destroyed by Chinese politics/ regulations, or are they just caught in the wave of things
I’m out. Good luck guys but this pandemic ticker has ran out of steam.
I’m moving to lucid motors, glhf
Lucid is even higher risk than NIO…?
XPEV dropped last night (HongKong’s Monday market) based on the news but recovered to green at market close - how the fuck we are still down almost 7% at 3:45?
Americans are more afraid of China stocks then Chinese.
HongKong’s citizens dont like to be called Chinese. In fact, they own different passports than the Chinese passports. And man I know they hate each others.
I know better coz my wife is from HK and Im from Singapore lol.
Oh ok. So is it true that HongKong people are not that fearful about Chinese stocks? Do they know something we don’t? Plz share your native point of view about all this China cracking down cuz I definitely need someone from HongKong to pad on my back and tell me its gonna be okay.
Xpev is down more than nio on American exchanges- it’s just a market move -it will bounce
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The only thing that gives me peace is that the average cost of the positions of the institutions is 42$~
How do you see that ?
Yeah, thank god they're saddled up.
So it appears as some investors have been saying since Q1. NIO is not going to be moving based off personal merits. If NIO did, the stocks price would be substantially higher. Which is fine because it gives traders/investors good entries. I would be looking for stocks NIO tends to move with and be trading based off 80% that and 20% NIO related fundamentals.
Still bullish on new energy and especially Chinese stocks because it's almost like a coiled spring. All the conditions for a run up are being met. I don't look at NIO specifically to come to this conclusion.
Holding Nio since December 2020, should have sold it in January, but due to "GrEat SpEciAlists" in this section decied to hold. I'm in a loss for several month and im stuck with it for a long time. Joining to this section was my biggest mistake. Sometime i think that these comment section is just some kind of fraude to make people hold. Sell this stupid stocks when you have a chance.
Have you seen the lack of moderation on this board? You're never going to get good advice if they allow new accounts daily. I don't discuss share price because this place does not have proper moderation to incite quality discussion.
This board seems like its moderated by shorts.
Have you been selling covered calls to reduce your basis? The point of the boards is to get different strategies. No one is perfect-we all pick stocks that flip and some that go up. I had bought a lot of roku when it was 70s used sold a lot of puts- it went down and tried to average myself down with calls- well eventually I gave up- and it started it’s bounce from the 30s and eventually went to 400s. Simple point- if you believe in a company- don’t let stupid trading moves take you away from you belief and reason to invest in the first place. For me it was a bad spot to get in -freaked out on a drop and then missed the future. For many with nio it’s the same- don’t go gambling money you need right away- don’t play time sensitive options- just be patient - and if you are holding stock use the ability to sell covered calls to bring your basis down.
Couldn't agreed more. I've been selling monthly covered calls with the few thousand NIO shares that I have. Selling covered calls seems to have a much much higher rate of success than to buy call/put options since stocks tend to move down or side way after a run. I'm going to keep selling covered calls for as long as I hold my NIO shares. They're a great way of making a good amount of free monthly income.
On this nio drop I was getting burned and rolled myself to 37 calls thinking it was going to see mid 40s this week- well then came the announcement on the offering and it dropped- well with today’s action rolled some calls and rolled some of my calls into shares, since it basically saved me $2 of downside, sell a 37 call for .37 premium and buy stock at 34.71-now back to 37 and I am $2 bucks ahead
Nice nice. For me I keep it simplified. I use selling covered calls as a way of rewarding myself for holding onto the shares. It's also a good monthly income that I can collect and use that to buy other stocks or more NIO shares. However, if the stock start running the opposite direction and move up then I'll buy to close to prevent myself from getting assigned. I'll then wait for the run to cool off before I start selling covered calls again. NIO is pretty predictable right now since it moves at the beginning of every month due to the announcement of delivery numbers. So I use that as a guide to sell covered calls.
I joined nio gang when nio was at all time high,and bought some when it dipped to 55 form 62 (thought it's a good discount price ) and kept buying little by little when it dipped got my average down to 45 ish. I'm in nio for long, but have to say it hurts to see red all year long 😅
NIO is so beaten up in YTD -35% , form all time high -45% , we keep buying but it keeps dipping.
My belief is that this is yet another shakeout - look at NIO’s increasing EPS. They’re about to become profitable. When Tesla became profitable those shares shot up.
Wall Street is really smart. They know the psychological game better than any of us.
How far away until they're profitable tho, do you think?
Literally the next quarter or two from what it looks like!
Edit: that means that from that point on they’re making money but overall they may be net negative. But making money is what I think is most important.
You seem like a sensible person - when do you see the stock realistically getting back into the 50s? January-March?
The truth here regardless of what anyone says is “I don’t know”. I think 50-60s by mid next year but it’s a guess.
It just depends on whenever institutions start feeling FOMO or see NIO as a lower risk/sure bet moving on
Yeah, in the mean time, what stocks do you think look good right now. I'm planning on only buying Microsoft through the end of the year. I need to add ballast.
Maybe a fin tech like square? Really just depends on how much risk you want to take on. If a large portion is in NIO then go safe with MSFT and the like. I’ve also really liked Adobe
Are you in Finance?
Like for work? No I’m in medical school. But I study finance and companies for fun - investing is my fav hobby.
Same, I'm in PR in NYC but have a dream of doing comms for a headgefund. Maybe it will happen oneday.
Oh interesting - thanks for the tip.
Evergrande is the perfect scandal to shake out the paperhands, that's why 90% of retail traders lose money in the stock market. We sell, when institutions are buying.
I agree but not just with NIO. The problem is people on here only focus on NIO SP. But a lot of stocks that trend with NIO are getting the "shake out". That's how wall street profits. At this point if someone wants to understanding NIOs share price, they are better off looking at other indicators rather than company performance primarily. At least at this moment where NIO clearly isn't moving based off personal merits.
Well one hour left to give some hope to the markets otherwise people will freak out when they see the news or look at their portfolio tonight
So many stocks with very similar chart patterns today
The world has come to an end for me
Why? Its only money.
i don’t want to dump on anyone’s dreams but fed meeting is this week 🤦♂️
this week will be fucked up😂😔
The fed won’t rub salt into the wound!
yeah they will 😂😂
Im not a fan of Trump but damm I miss his days!
Maybe it turns it around- that would be a change- something go the right way- well I am done for the day-out of buying power-
Once this bounce up. I’m selling everything. Literally trading sideway for majority of the year
It was at 55 a few weeks ago, don't blame the stock. You gotta have a plan and a threshold especially if you're short term as you are implying.
That is when the stock will rocket to Mars
It always does after I sell :(
Then plz sell tomorrow
In times like these the CEO must come and bring some good news.. And where is William????? He dumped us terrible deliveries, only to tell us that they will sell 60m shares and now he is not doing anything????
His job is not to care about the stock price- it’s to run the company and make money. The stock price will follow if he runs the company well
he will rebuy all the shares xd on the dip
If someone wants to get rid of their nio shares, I accept them for free! 😁
I keep buying the dips but this bitch keeps dipping !! 😡
when nio is dumping 150% volume when there is good news 20% volume 😂😂😂
We didnt even recover from the 7% drop from August deliveries, now we add another 7% from real estate crisis? Man this stock sure is brutal. If one day it actually makes people rich, they sure earned the wealth for holding this savage Chinese stock.
well it’s all market except lucid 🤦♂️
when people say Nio is overrated I will always redirect them to lucid, I mean they don't even produce cars yet. Nikola hype
Only reason lucid is green because it’s not Chinese stock. Man China has fucked their stocks really hard this year. Not sure if they did that on purpose. I dont buy the “get rich together” propaganda of them, and they must be onto something else bigger and sketchier.
1230 shares at 40.61 help me!
3477 shares at 58.48. Just keep swimming.
Just added more to bring my average down to $50.03 … help me !!
I’m at 1001 @ 50.92
We tried and are trying
Aaand it's gone.. I'm gonna hold my shares but damn.
The 37/36 calls are not moving- still holding a pretty large premium showing that good chance this bounces back this week
A smart move might be to buy and sell 37 calls for friday- goes up $2 buck plus premium, goes down you get $.40 premium like investing at 34.60
don’t own any nio shares, but bought a 35put last friday, making a killin
Get out when you can 😉
Get some calls running!
GG boys, we going back to $3
Edit: These NIO fan boys can't take a joke.
Missed the 8, $38 😉
Ok so the 36 support was gone just like that. Are we seeing May lows again? Lmao
I think the 30-31 region seems possible at this point, sadly (over the next few days). It should be a rock solid resistance tho if we're looking for a silver lining
Same. This is very sad. If I would had thrown money into tesla in Jan 2021, I would breakeven today. Instead, I lost 28% YTD in NIO. I suck at picking winners.
Honestly I think this stock will bounce back eventually to the 40s and 50s. The problem is there's the combined issues of chip shortages, SP500 bubble and the Evergrande crisis. It's like a ton of bad news occurring simultaneously brewing fear in the market. Not to mention that Nio is a China stock so by default many people (especially Americans) trust it less than, say, Tesla.
34.8 and no sign of stopping.
Guys this is mad depressing. Down 10k on NIO. Im only 19 kinda my life savings 😔
You should be diversified. Buy some microsoft, apple etc. Nio is 19% of my portfolio which is a blessing today.
Be glad you even had that for savings. I’ve been paying bills since I was 15, wanted a car had to buy it and insurance, phone, mom made me pay rent as soon as I turned 18. Had to bust my ass and work full time to get through college and just lived pay check to pay check until I finally graduated and was able to start saving real money. It fucking sucked, wish I would of had the means to save at 19 but most jobs at that age don’t pay much other than barely living. I’m not trying to downplay you saving 10k at that age bc your situation could of been worse for all I know. What I’m just trying to say is don’t feel too bad, you’ve got a lot of time to make that money back and it’s a bad market right now. You haven’t lost that money yet, just down.
Bro same age, and I've lost 8k on NIO. Kind of wish I never would have invested. I hope I'm wrong but fuck stocks lol. I'm in too deep so I just have to hold now.
Is it realized loss or unrealized loss
Unrealized, it's only a loss when you sell.
Yeah right there with you I’m down bad but it’s all unrealized
Same bro. Got in this year and it has been fucking me up. Wished I never too, hope long term really does work out like what everyone said..
on the plus side you're only 19 so you still have a lot of time to save ;)
It makes me regret not selling at $54
NIO will moon when you least expect it. so just park your cash and forget
Down far enough today- time to rally back. McClellan oscillator -183. Cci -197, everything showing oversold- need a rally certainly don’t want a drop to the abyss
This pattern is very scary to me. It seems like it might be drilling for a while
I’ve been in this stock for almost a year. The yields are terrible this year. I don’t know how much longer a stock like this can be beat down before it pops….
Bought 100 shares more on this dip. 560 total avg down to 39.60 cb. Hope this pays off.
Bought me more shares. Been holding on cash just in case this happens and it served me well. This whole news thing will clear and we'll eventually get back to the green. Ignore the noise and hold long term, and you'll be fine. If your vision window is short term, then good luck. Not much I can offer in that regard.
How long is long term for you? I was thinking on holding NIO a year or 2, but in the past 4 months ive been in i have nothing to show for
\~5 years at least. when 2025 comes around, I will re-evaluate my position and probably end up diversifying a bit. China has repeatedly mentioned its goal of being the top EV player in the world by 2025, and I believe NIO will be in direct correlated growth with that until then.
The stupidest deep ever... The market is Deeping for something that has not happened yet, which may not even happen and if it happens it won't have any effect on usa
How long to recover?! I hate seeing all my money evaporate
A good three forty
I’m still a believer in nio.
15,000 shares deep, holding for minimum 3-5 years.
Add a few more years to that. Realistically. I have a bigger holding and gave go look at a 5-8 year horizon. Forget it meantime!
8k shares @$37.15 here. Paper loss hurts!
I look at like this. I don’t check the value of my home everyday. I don’t check the stock everyday because I’m not selling. I want to own a piece of this company wherever it will be in 5 years. My intuition is that the company will be better off at some point in the future than where it’s at today so I just wait.
bought 200 at 36.87 last thu and 100 at 35.74 today. 600 total CB 37.16
Bought 50 more shares @ 35.50. Hope it doesn’t dip more.
$41 avg and bought more today 💰🥰
NIO the stock that keeps tanking
Someone did say that the market was going to have a correction this month. I definitely bought some more nio
200 now with a 41.5 avg
We’re in the long game now
Keep strong. Over 3,000 shares with a $57 avg. Holding till $135.00
Why china market is in downtrend mode at last month? Any bad news or again chinesr government prove her power?
Evergrande going bankrupt.
Pfff i saw it before. Patience will havw big drop if you have cash buy the dips alibaba nio.
all in baby
The whole market is down bummer
Very interesting price action today... lots of stocks way down, but NIO only down slightly... seems like everyone still in this is probably high conviction long positions...
Which stocks are you comparing it to?
Not slightly but the price action today IMO will tell a lot. If NIO, recoups most of its losses ( and finishes the day flat or near flat) today against a very weak market it is saying to me more funds are rotating out of the likes of TESLA and dipping into NIO..If I am right, we will see low 40s again in October. Let's see EOD
For posterity - currently down -1.65 (-4.40%)
And for the retards that are unable to comprehend such logic - look at how XPENG traded overnight in Hong Kong - [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/9868.HK/](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/9868.HK/) . The Hang Seng was down 3-4% EOD.
Bought the dip 500 shares averaged down 37.86 lets go
Bought another 20 shares, making my total holding now 700 shares at $41.76
Down 25% bad year no idea what to do first timer
Ok then imma teach you. Sit down. Grab a coffee and listen carefully.
1. You do ... Absolutely nothing
2. You do more nothing
3. See that discount rn?
4. Buy some more to average down
5. Do nothing some more
6. Enjoy EOY
Ya I’m down 20% 🙄
Down 21% wish I had more cash on hand to buy this at 35$ would bring my average down alot
yup. down 20.11% now. holding.
Just bought the dip!!
Ill uninstal my broker app, see you when the ET7 is released, cya folks
Sold some S&P to buy more NIO, I have faith 🙌🏻
Idc how much it will drop today, but I know you guys will come pick me up at 39.5 EOM the latest, right?
fuck me? no sir, fuck you
LoL. This thread is so active and funny on red days. People come here for news and free therapy. I actually enjoy the thread better on red days.
Hope it returns soon so we can abandon this thread and live the peaceful life of “holding long term and no look”.
Brace for impact
If the S&p corrects, will that affect Nio?
Correct higher? It has been correcting and actually looking over sold
Market is absolutely going to sell off some. The housing market crisis in China is fucking awful, ghost cities all over the place, doesn’t look like their govt as of right now is going to bail out evergrande. I sold some stuff in premarket that I was already green on to free up some cash in case we do have that large sell off. Just depends how it’s handled over there. US economy is still strong but when you have a firm with that many assets about to go under, the crisis can spread multinational like how it did in 2008 with Lehman.
Why does evergrande affect the EV sector? And also we are not trading in HK or Shanghai right?
Because almost every real investors have stakes in real estate, and China is 2nd largest economy. When real estate tanks, people sell other assets to cover the loss, leading to sell pressure in everything.
Just like the 2008 crash started by real estate bubble.
I really dont mean to be negative, and believe me I will be down big today just because of NIO. But crashes caused by real estate are the ones that take longest to recover. The 2008 took years to recover from.
Good question also notice Tesla and rest of ev are showing same weakness and they are not in China
Tesla is in China
Its sad people panick selling.... well gotta fish out the short sellers in my opinion i been buying on every dip since may and i got 1200 shares averaged down to 38.44... i just sold some serious moderna calls last week so i been waiting for this dip imma buy up a ton today so if yall little girls wanna sell me your stocks lets go imma be on the moon laughing when it takes off so who wants to join me 🚀🚀🚀🚀
I really hope youre right, so I can save my portfolio from this disaster. However, to be fair, there are no short sellers. This is caused by 2008’s real estate bubble flashback. The 2008 took years to recover from.
Yes im aware of that as well im confident it will pick up again
Oh fuck… here we go.