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America ain’t perfect, but when you compare it to Russia, China, and a lot of the other countries out there we look angelic.
This is something alot of redditors need to understand...
Based and God damned tankie redditors pilled
I'll dump on America a lot but the moment someone says China, Russia, or even North fuckin' Korea are shining examples of civilization? I become the biggest patriot on earth.
Based and America_isnt_perfect_but_its_the_best_we_got pilled
More like America\_is\_a\_turd\_but\_China\_and\_Russia\_are\_septic\_tanks pilled
More likr America_bad_but_China_and_Russia_the_absolute_worst.
But what about India...? Tech support superpower?
I could understand China (if you buy in their insane propaganda), but North Korea? Only tankies who would rather starve than say that communism is wrong would defend NK
One of my good friends I met while I was in Germany was a former Russian soldier (soviet) and his son was in the vdv. Most based thing I've ever heard from him was "I'm so happy US is world police and not Russia. We would fuck it up."
>suggesting the US hasn't
but still based
Eh, the sandbox has been bad moves but Pax Americana on the open seas has basically built the global trade we all know and love.
The reason the sandbox has been a mess is because the options are empire build or mess. That’s it.
Let's just say at least European and American culture and politics are similar in a way that we generally agree on how things should go and work, i.e. actual democracy being good etc.
I will turn this beautiful message into an nft...
least indoctrinated redditor
China is an authoritarian garbage dump.
fuck West Taiwan
Don't you mean South Mongolia?
you mean North Bhutan?
you mean Lesser Japan.
I think you're referring to Britain's Favorite Opium Buyer.
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为党争光! Glory to the CCP!
oh no, whatever shall I do? I´m so terrified
LIBERATE West Taiwan.
Fortunately they have no friends
Food slaps hard though
Eh depends on the breed, Chihuahuas probably taste like shit
You never had golden retriever steaks? Bone apple teet definitely
You mean the Rebel Occupation of Mainland Taiwan is a authoritarian garbage dump
I'm a European, and I approve this message.
European American brotherhood forever! You're still soyboys though
I love you too, dummy.
Yeah! Merica! Guns and morbid obesity!! WHOOO!
It's called being based.
Okay maybe not the obesity but the guns for sure.
America is insanely based! Global hegemony and leader of the free world! 1st and 2nd biggest air forces!
*And* second? Is that the Navy or did I miss a memo?
The United states air force is the 1st largest air force. The 2nd largest is the United states navy air force
Wouldn't be surprised if the Texas airforce is also in the top ten
If theres one thing we like here in the states, its fighter jets and baconators
European AuthCenter? That could never be a bad combination
You'd be surprised. I'm not some hard auth, I just want a qualified democracy.
Our values (tolerance, objectivity and empiricism among others) are the best and we should want to spread them globally.
It's like colonialism, but good.
It’s about as racist as you can get. But I have to agree. Fuck everyone who ain’t us.
To put European brothers, we will stand with the west to protect the people’s choices and fight back against them beasts out in the east
Yeah i still aint paying the 2%
Considering your position that doesn’t surprise me greedy pig
American: Stupid Euro-cucks, they are nothing without us.
European: He is bad but he’s not a psychopath like Russia and China yet.
I am calling the domestic violence help center. Go see a doctor.
I'm a European, and I want us to hold the status again.
If only the west were still capable of this kind of unity. China has their hand up the left’s ass, working them like a sock puppet, and Russia has their hand up the Right’s ass doing the same.
China and Russia are tearing us apart.
Based and realpolitik-pilled
But do most western right-wingers truly like Russia? And do most western left-wingers truly like China?
My experience is the *complete* opposite: Neither group particularly likes either regime.
I think it's more that we simply have not woken up to realize how dangerous these regimes actually are. Cheap manufactured products from China and cheap gas from Russia makes us ignore the issue.
>And do most western left-wingers truly like China?
lol no, PCM's idea of leftists is based entirely on the people they meet online
no one here touches grass
A guy I went to high school with used to be very vocally alt right.
Now he posts shitty memes that simp for China and the Soviet Union on an Instagram page with 12k followers.
Based and PCM-should-touch-grass pilled
They don’t need to like Russia or China. They just need to hate their imaginary domestic “enemies,” more than they hate Russia or China.
And Russia and China loves to use its troll-factories to "throw fuel at these fires".
Yes they do. They’ve learned how effective it is. They would be fools not to.
>But do most western right-wingers truly like Russia?
No, I am assuming that by right winger, you mean conservative (because that's the narrative).. The idea that we love Russia comes from the effort of some to conflate conservatives with white supremacists. White supremacists are looking to change things as much or more than any progressive (obviously in a different way).
All you have to do is watch Tucker Carlson repeat talking points from RT and justify Putin’s invasion of Ukraine if you want to see which way the wind is blowing in the magasphere.
On the left, all you need to see is Hollywood actors apologizing for using the word “Taiwan.”
Successful disinformation campaigns and divisive political figures in the US have divided and crippled the country, making us easy pickings for our adversaries.
And anyone who sucks up to the CCP do it because they have (or mistakenly believe they have) an economic self-interest in doing so. Generally corporations or celebrities of some kind (politicans, athletes, influencers etc.)
And a *very small* minority of delusional communist-regime-apologists. But any left-wingers that actually care about democracy and human rights? ... I am yet to meet one, at least.
I absolutely don't, fuck China! Corporatism wrapped in the veneer of socialism.
I agree. I've usually never see rank and file right say 'Russia good' or leftists saying 'China is good'.
Mostly I've seen a lot of elites with bizarre views, presumably because they have business ties in both countries. And then the media using those statements and soundbites made by these economic political elite as political football to show one side is more traitorous than the other.
Doesn't matter what the majority wants, only those in power, and most of those people have been corrupted.
I'm sure he ain't the only one who has been compromised, left or right.
I'm not sure about that. Yeah, they might winning information war (basically because the West doesn't meddle in others' business half the those two) but in the end both political right and left prefer compromise than Xi or Putin.
And regarding international cooperation, the good thing of China and Russia being basically megalomaniac dicratorhips is that they hate each other and nobody trusts them. NATO/EU is just a safer bet.
> the West doesn’t meddle in others’ business half the those two
The West doesn't meddle? We are the only country that basically gets away with murdering people in a war every 20 years since our nations inception lol. What'd we kill 250k iraqis or something? And supporting Israels ethnostate which pisses off muslims. Something Something that's why we had 9/11 attacks.
Also as Snowden revealed the U.S. is spying not only on their own citizens, but even allies and enemy nations alike.
That's it ignorance speaking. Believe me, Russia has Middle East by the balls even more than the US do.
And what I meant was you know, manipulating elections, hacking others' IT systems. The role of electronic warfare of the NATO is merely defensive, while China and Russia have no qualms destroying a nation economic system.
They are not even winning the information war.
They WERE winning it, but they fucked up with their wolf warrior tactics.
Now the west is more then ever united against China and that unity is growing. China is now clearly recognized as a threat (it wasn't a few years ago), thrust of China is at an all time low. Companies are trying to move their supply chains away from China.
The only place China is willing the info war is with 14 yos on tik tok.
It’s up to us centrists, isn’t it?
I like to think so, brother. Let’s try to steer this busted-ass ship of freedom back into port!
We just need a truly centrist candidate beloved by all like Mike Rowe to run for office in 2024.
I miss Andrew Yang. He was an amateur but I found myself agreeing with him more often than not.
Yang is a much better non joke candidate, although I do like hearing Mike Rowes opinion on politics when he gives it here and there, mostly I just loved Dirty Jobs.
Hah yeah that was a cool show
All joking aside you hit it right on the nail. Russia and China are trying to play both the left and right against each other and the sad thing is we are too worked up now to care.
Yeah and It couldn’t be a more obvious strategy. But they focus on the ideological extremes where the various interlocutors are incapable to rational thought or self-awareness.
Always has been
Well boys let’s roll up our sleeves and get to centralizing.
can i into centrists gang?
That decision can only be made from within.
>ruling class psyops are actually china
Lol right wingers are genuinely obsessed with licking putin’s ass. Good boy. Other side bad and my side good! No collusion! Lmao
>ranting about putin and collusion for no discernible reason
Be gone shilib
Vlad is pleased. The glorious leader is pleased. Your enemy is the liberal. They are after your guns. They will make you trans and take your freedums. You must stop them.
1. Vlad is short for vladislav not vladimir
2. You know nothing about me you brainwashed moron. You literally got everything wrong about my beliefs. You're a fucking idiot. Go turn on msnbc.
I’m so sorry for insulting your personal
Idol. Vlad would be so mad at me. Keep up the good work. Stop the steal!!!
Which part of "you literally got everything wrong about my beliefs" dont you fucking understand? Are you a bot or illiterate?
I don’t honestly care what you believe. The fact that you know nothing about asymmetrical warfare or Russian and Chinese soft diplomatic power abroad is fine. It’s not like everyone is a subject matter expert. Not everyone is accustomed to doing business in russian and chinese spheres of influence abroad.
The fact that you THINK you know what you’re talking about makes me basically completely dismiss anything else you say. Sorry not sorry.
Yea you dont know what you're talking about. You've already proven yourself to be stupid and easily manipulated. Bye.
China has no friends Russia is just an alliance of convince
I think Russia-China conflict is more likely then Russia-NATO, even considering the tensions.
Russia has been well-documented playing both sides. In 2016 they were spreading both anti-clinton and anti-trump messages as far and wide as they could, and in 2020 they were spreading edited clips of both biden and trump to make both look bad. It’s a far better strategy than picking a side
Neither of those things are even remotely true.
Good boy. Russia appreciates all your hard work.
Yup. There's also a problem with another group of people who have made their existence of handing their hands up everyone's asses.
We can't talk about them though.
Based although we make fun of you guys, it's a billion times betyer to have the us as the world super power than the auth shitholes known as russia amd china
They wish they had a navy like the US of A.
Russia's just waiting for the ice to finally melt
That’s my Civ 6 strategy
>Russian permafrost is melting.
>German noices intensify
*ICH BIN GESCHWINDIGKEIT*
This is how we get the unthinkable: a combined Franco-Prussian force to finally put an end to the weirdness that is Russia.
Edit: I guess Franco-German? Realized that term hasn't been in use since WWI after I wrote it.
Unfortunately for you, it is Russia.
China's hypersonic missiles are making it obsolete though.
Hyoersonic missile don't give you amphibous capability
I worry about China but not so much about Russia.
Be it tsardom, soviet or oligarch, they can't escape the fate of being the eternal silver medal at best, the Luigi of nations. Good at trolling though.
Oh, the best trolls.
The “trolling” is as much a part of their military doctrine as anything else at this point. “Hybrid Warfare” is where they’ve sunk a ton of resources and it’s a direct result of them realizing that they can’t complete on other fronts. We’ve already seen them shutdown a major east coast pipeline just for fun. Them going 100% if the gloves ever come off is going to suck. We need to be shoving kids into any and all CS/Cybersecurity/HackingWhatever programs we can think of. Erasing tuition if they can get a security clearance and qualify for agency work.
Thing is, they cant really afford to go in 100%. Like, they're going to start a programming/software war against . . . America? The country with every single major software company in the world in its borders? They better plan on winning quick, because that's the 21st century equivalent to starting a war with America based around tanks and planes in the 1940s.
Based and proactive pilled
The Luigi of nations. Beautiful.
Russia is ruled by the kleptocrats, who have most of their wealth on the West. So, Russia is not dangerous to the West, not because of their resources, but because of the corruption.
Europe could be a world superpower too if it were an empire instead of some stupid not-really-democratic liberal thing.
It’s not even a good democracy, it’s plagued with petty bureaucrats and oppressive politicians
>it’s plagued with petty bureaucrats and oppressive politicians
sooo... a government?
Worse, it's a government *of governments*. Its like every problem with governments squared.
It’s (problems with governments)^27
In essence yes but worse
eu needs to reform or die
It's definitely going to dissolve. The sheer weight of Europe's collective demographic collapse is going to force France (the only country in the EU who remembered how to have kids) to abandon ship or get dragged down with them. Once their massive amount of retirees start collecting benefits instead of paying taxes, it's gonna get ugly for the likes of Germany and Italy.
We’ll fix it with immigrants, don’t worry.
Civilisation is a pyramid scheme
It's possible to have a steady population demographic, nothing wrong with that. You run into problems though when you have an inverted pyramid and there's more retirees than there are people supporting them.
Still the only somewhat functional one (thank you germany)
Based and OurSideIsBetter-pilled
Guess who makes most of the US’s shit
Russia implodes before it can even dream of becoming a superpower
Let's spread some love. I'm thankful when I hear about shit like Portland riots or huge healthcare costs that I do not live in US, but I love and appreciate your culture. I even used to idolize US as a kid and wanted to move there.
Honestly we could use your kind here again. We're missing the thread of things as of late.
#wold superpower nomber won
America may be the cringe but I will not let tankies put me in re-education camps
In order for the USA to stay on top that means the ancaps and ancoms will have to be ignored. I truly hope our european allies would step the fuck up with their NATO obligations and I as much as im a big fan of economists like milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell I truly believe we need to amp up or restrictions on Chinese goods. We will lose if we continue to keep ourselves bound to the Chinese and frankly we are enabling evil by participating with their economy in such broad ways. Domestically we have a lot of work to do. Increase police funding after reevaluating and increasing the bar to become a cop. I know personally know cops that make me proud they are around a few that make me think the barrier to entry must barely be off the ground. Education needs a revamp in this country as well, personally i think schools should be sex segregated (probably a pretty controversial opinion) and it seems like the private schools (the voucher schools, the name is escaping me) is the way forward to give parents better control over where their kids go instead of by zip code. Politicians should be barred from stock trading and their income and benefits should be restructured. If we are going to crack some eggs it should be the politicians eggs that we break. Idk there is a lot more but overall I wish people would go outside and meet their neighbors, join communities (especially churches imo) and remember we are all Americans together, FUCK CHINA AND FUCK RUSSIA.
Edit: CHARTER schools. Thats is what I couldn't remember
Annoying thing is that its laughably easy to circumvent embargoes and such. A millennia old technique is to send a product somewhere else for completing it so that its not "made in china" and can get pass economic sanctions. China and Russia aren't the same as they were during the cold war. They are able to effectively punch back by not being reclusive states diplomatically isolated.
I don't think the goals should be to embargo but instead promote a return to production coming from here or at least closer to home. I won't sit here and say, "oh it's easy we just do X and it will all be better!" But it seems clear to me that we gambled in the 90s that we could liberalize China and it didn't work. Now our economy is far too tied to an enemy that wants to dominate us in the long run. We need to decouple ourselves.
I feel like closer Europe-American integration of markets and such could provide an alternative. It's not perfect but it's a better alternative. Perhaps turning to countries like Nigeria for cheap manufacturing too? Or utilizing the Françafrique for the same purpose
Balkaner here, no go fuck yourself you have troubled our countries enough already with your "interests" and fucking propaganda, especially we in eu countries cant even decide for ourselves anymore beacuse every goverment bootlicks the technocrats in brussels
The first authright I agree with fuck Americans
This doesn't account for the fact that there is a huge number of powerful people on the left in Europe who very much want to align themselves with Russia and China, and do. No it's not just eastern European countries. The elite in France and Germany and in the EU as a collective have been basically stabbing the US in the back by cozying up to China and Russia over the last 20 years, pretty much at every opportunity. The semblance of solidarity in the western world is only achieved immediately after Russia or China do something hostile to Europe. Then it wears off pretty rapidly and Europeans immediately go back to absolutely cheating in US-EU trade and generally bending over for Russia and China economically if they feel it will benefit them and harm the US and thereby reduce the gap in power between the US and Europe.
As a latin American, yes please, don't you guys lose the world order.
Me when I say I would die to defend against West Taiwan aggression.
Give it about 20 years or so
I love America, but we are doneski. Only a matter of time till we get smacked by one of those two countries that isnt bickering about pronouns and genders.
I hate ameri-trads as much as the next guy but I'm real fucking glad that Russia didn't win the cold War because their food is more gray than the brittish and thats saying something, Chinese food on other hand is a bit too colourful for my tastes...
Based auth left, I want a communist state, but only from a place with nice food. Maybe an Italian proletarian empire.
Mainstream media really be hitting y'all hard I see. You spitting out pure copium.
European here, are you people really convinced that Russia and China aren't superpowers?
Just Americans being Americans living in their own reality tbh.
Russia isn’t, China might be in economic sense.
Yes, a super power is someone who can project military, economic, and political influence on a global scale. If you cant do all 3 at once you arent a super power.
Russia isnt capable of economic nor military on a global scale. Militarily they're a regional power and economically they only affect Europe.
China economically has a strong hold on the world though western companies have been pulling out of China for years now and the Chinese economy is slowing down. Militarily they dont even have a blue water navy, more less an ability to wage war outside of Asia. Politically they're similar to Russia in that their reach is strong but due to literally fucking everyone hating the CCP with extreme passion its rather limited.
The US is the only concurrent super power and its one of 3 countries to ever achieve it. The 3 being Britain at the height of its empire, the Soviet Union, and obviously the US.
Cope with downvotes all you want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, geopolitically these are the requirements.
China already took the lead in tech. The US is still ahead in terms of sheer weaponry, but even that is being tested.
That's because these fools keep letting them steal it.
As an Indian,
**Fuck the USA**
***Russia is Ok***
India should allow guns fight me
Russia is ok for India, only because India was colonised by British. If it wasn’t UK, then it would be Russia.
I don't think they would be able to control it. If Russia attempted to colonize India, they would have to fight the Marathas in Hostile territory and unsuitable climate.
Yeah, we got Top Gun and a Sylvester Stallone punching a Swedish dude playing a Russian, what about it?
Honestly we need to bring these movies back, along with some OG Tom Clancy stuff.
Tom Clancy's message has been corrupted. If anyone has actually read his works, half of his books are him just talking about conservative philosophy and the American Dream.
I’d rather have them fight for supremacy and try to bribe us third world shitholes to go to their side.
Lmao, Western 'civilization'. Nothing more civilized than our current cultural hellscape.
Hopefully in the coming war the West loses to accelerate the needed cultural renewal
My favorite thing about this is that we Americans realize we aren’t perfect but other countries can’t understand that we joke about ourselves more than we joke about other countries
the problem is that some Europeans, at least in certain countries, would absolutely not mind having Russia or China as having similar power to the US
>Russia or China as having similar power to the US
How are you planning to prevent this other than somehow imprisoning the Chinese and Russians in poverty?
Screw those guys then. We don't have to be friends with everyone.
exactly, but sadly, they seem to be the loud minority
Yes, let’s pretend like China isn’t a superpower of the world, like we’re still living in the 80s or something
They're not. They're what's called a regional power.
It has to do with force projection. I don't really feel like writing a fucking essay, so let me put it this way: when China does wargames about fighting the US, it practices purely to take and hold the South China Sea. When the US does wargames about fighting China, it practices whether invading mainland China is worth the extra effort over simply erasing their joke of a navy and blockading their ports.
*That's* the difference between a regional power and a superpower.
Then economically America is a regional power and China is a superpower, because while America is stagnant and lost the trade war, China's been getting their grubby little hands everywhere. And after they manufacture a crap ton of hypersonic missiles, they'll be the only superpower for a little while.
Are you just gonna pretend like China doesn’t have almost every corporation and organization by the balls, ready to jump at a moments command?
If the US told Disney something they’d say fuck off, if China does it they say how high.
That’s true power in this time where corporations are stupid powerful and everyone has nukes.
Stop eating the Chinese propaganda. Entertainment corporations bending to a regional power, strictly within that power's borders, to gain access to that regional power's market during peacetime is so far from a power being able to use that corporation to exert it's own influence it's not even funny.
Or, put another way: who's culture are they slightly modifying before consumption when they tell Disney to change something?
The US won't be number 1 for long and the EU is weakening as well and will lose countries sooner or later and in the end Russia and China will take the lead sadly and we can't do shit about it because we barely have the military strenght and we have very low moral and nobody wants to fight for anything
America has its problems, and we fuck up a lot. but at least we fucking try to live up to being a land of the free.
I would be glad if none of them held that status
MacArthur was right
Am I the only one who thinks Russia and China taking over the US isn’t bad? Why should I fight and die for a country that hates me and supports the destruction of the world’s cultures and support woke bullshit?
Russia will never, but China is expected to overtake the US by 2030
They just scared of us but we don't care about them and their feelings
Pathetic. The only way for you to justifies America’s existence is to compare it with shit hole states like Russia and China. How about you compare yourself with Roman Empire British empire or even the god damm French. You need to be a real ignorant person to believe America is the greatest nation ever. You achieve nothing except for the fertile land god allows you so far. You sold weapons to fascists, communists, terrorists who then became you enemies and ruined your pathetic trade deals. China would have been nuked by USSR already without you. You could have stopped trading with China after 1989. But American must have some serious yellow fever and exquisite taste for cheap Chinese labors just like in the those days they were obsessed with slavery. Now these slavers decided to stand with their new imported slaves instead of you lazy fat ass so you are suddenly unhappy about Mexican immigrants. It won’t happen if you are not that greedy. America accused Europe going too close with China but you haven’t reduced you trading with China at all while many European nations actually do so. America didn’t want to be criticized by USSR for their hypocrisy so they threw Europe imperialism under the bus and go along with this nonsensical cultural marxist agenda. American conspiracy theorists talked about New World Order all the time while forgetting you are literally the nw world. For too long, we had wronged the French Revolution. American Revolution is the beginning of downfall of human race. Thomas Jefferson literally supported French Revolution while poor Lafayette begged him to help. That’s what happened when you helped a American. They called Britain their ally but they sponsor and glorify IRA to divide their ally. They asked Britain to give up Falkland. They also criticized Britain and France of imperialism for defending their canal so they won’t be called a hypocrite by USSR. They are more worried about bad press than strategy and allies. Besides, what makes you say America belongs to western civilization? America was founded because some European didn’t want to be European anymore. America is an immigrant nation. Why couldn’t you be an Asian nation? Are you racist? Why are you excluding African culture again? You asked immigrants to assimilate with your western civilization but did you ever assimilate with native Americans? You Puritan forefathers were literally orange communists back in England banning Christmas, theater, joke and church. They can’t even live with the Dutch. These are the person who hated the old world. Orange libleft are the true heir of puritan America. Real American are just like them. America has been a mistake and no more than a greedy nation who only cares about their guns and hamburgers. Buy them a cheap mac, they will sell Taiwan to China. They keep appropriating European culture and history while claiming they are not European. They want to make Europe a multiracial republic just like them. Right wings fascinate about European culture while saying monarchy is dumb. Left wings hate European culture but they only care about European history. Because deep down they know, other nations sucks. America will be the most dangerous shit ever for western civilization.
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No one is ever going to read all that. Get a job.
I tried. I made it about 2-3 sentences. I thought it was a joke, tbh.
The Joke is him.
You are saying that USa still haves the lead?
To be real though I'd probably prefer the BRICS was the dominant world power because at least they're honest about their atrocities.
Ah yes China honest about it's atrocities. Tianamem, Xinjiang.
Same for Russia.
You just want to suck an auths dick.
If we had just finished the EU-US free trade agreement 8 years ago we could have controlled the global economy at least for another 50 years. Whatever the difference, whenever the EU, US, Japan, South-Korea, and the other democracies cooperate basically anything can be achieved. It is upsetting how terrible internal cohesion has become in both the EU and the US, never mind cooperation.