c-moon is the result of fusing pucci with Green baby, which is made from Dio's bone, which is technically a bone from Jonathan, which makes c-moon a hamon user
A mobius strip is a shape that twists in such a way so that it only has one side. If you traced a finger along it, your finger would go the entire loop, both inside and out, before it comes back to its starting point because the shape is one-sided.
C-Moon inverts an object's gravity, leading to some things becoming "inside out" when hit. You can see this with Jolyne's fingers, which, when hit by C-Moon, bulge the blood and muscles outside the skin where they shouldn't be.
Mobius strips don't exactly work that way. Sure, they can technically go "inside out", but because of its one-sidedness, the shape stays the same. Therefore, Jolyne is able to use this to become unaffected by C-Moon's attacks.
I found the anime itself to be pretty underwhelming 😭 I was looking forward to Stone Ocean's anime because I thought it was going to have the same quality as Golden Wind, maybe even better. I was wrong.
Some scenes looked very wonky, the animation wasn't smooth like it was in other parts, and most of the soundtrack was recycled from Stardust Crusaders. I was expecting the Blu-Ray release to fix some of the bad-looking scenes but they didn't change anything. Netflix was the worst thing to ever happen to Jojo.
Im insanely bias about JoJo and most things related to JoJo and even though only partly but I agree. Even though the animation wasnt too bad and there were some scenes that I really liked(for example the scenes with the mobius strip looked awesome) there were lots of times where it did not look as good as it should have. It should have been atleast as high quality as part 5 the whole time but the C-Moon fight for example was mostly trash tbh. Netflix really didn't do justice for SO. As for the music they did as good as in other parts with the new OST but there really were too many reused songs from part 3. My biggest complaint regarding this matter is the use of SDC's main ost during the Pucci beatdown. I think they should have put Sonochi no sadame there. One thing I really liked however is the ending. I think they did an amazing job with everything in the Made In Heaven and the What a Wonderful World arc and choosing Roundabout for the final ending was way better than if they actually chose What a Wonderful World. I almost started crying it was so good and in my opinion its the best ending out of all the other animated parts.
I pretty much agree with everything you've said. The Mobius Strip bit was so beautifully executed, I remember being very amazed when I first saw it. But the others were pretty mediocre. I'm just upset that Stone Ocean was handled like this. The animation wasn't as quality as the other parts because the main team of David Pro was working on another anime called Urusei Yatsura at the time and Netflix rushing the release didn't make it any better. I still can't believe they didn't fix *anything* in the Blu-Ray release, other than the ghosting. I guess they didn't care about Stone Ocean as much.
Golden Wind was actually the outlier, it was the best animated Part by far with Stardust Crusaders coming in second.
Stone Ocean wasn't done any worse than Phantom Blood or Diamond Is Unbreakable, except when it comes to the soundtrack which was lazily reused.
To be fair, Golden Wind is the most popular part in Japan, alongside Stardust Crusaders. Stone Ocean was probably the least popular part. I'm afraid Steel Ball Run will share the same fate with SO because it isn't as popular in Japan as well.
Maybe you watched the Blu-ray of Diamond is Unbreakable? Because the original TV version was rough, it clearly had a much lower budget than Parts 3 and 5.
Part 1 is also handled kinda poorly, the Blu-ray fixed the art but the animation and the quality of the sound effects is clearly worse than the rest of the series. It legit felt like watching a slide show in certain scenes.
BROOOO I FORGOT ABOUT ZOOM PUNCH, shit was legendary, I don’t think Joseph ever did it tho, but I guess star finger would kind of be like zoom punch in a way??
Nah man. That‘s some kind of evolved star finger. Hm…“star fist“? Nah- Pucci is not related to the joestars by blood (if we dont count him absorbing GB, which is a physical form of DIO‘s soul)….maybe…“grav fist?“ any ideas how to call this „ability?“ (except zoom punch?)
I mean, stands can shrink down in size, as shown by Silver Chariot and Hierophant Green in Part 3, so honestly, I think extending arm length would be a likely possibility.
I like how jolyne's ability makes her be able to throw hands with a stand
Jolyne=Bruno confirmed?
Yes.
Anyone else remember the days of “only a stand can harm another stand”
nah jolyne makes sense, she's made of stand
Bro please don't act like that was ever a hard rule
It never was but it’s so weird to me how they say it and then immediately ditch it afterwards. Even weirder to me that it was kept in the anime.
Even weirder to me that, in part 7, Araki REITERATES every rule as if he didn't break each and every one of them since they were introduced.
Tbf jolyene is basically made of her stand, since the string is considered the stand aswell and she can unravel her body
Yeah integrated stands can interact with other stands. Same way Yukako is able to grab echoes with her hair.
Or how jotaro can use star platinums vision without having him out
give me an example of rule breaking and I'll (try to) debunk it
it was ditched?
Nah it never was, people get confused
c-moon is the result of fusing pucci with Green baby, which is made from Dio's bone, which is technically a bone from Jonathan, which makes c-moon a hamon user
HOLY SHIIIT !
The transitive property of hamon users
Almost as strong as the transitive property of trish
Transitive properties are vital to Hamon users.
Piccolo looking-ass punches too smh.
The heaven balls die without Ciccolmoon
It's a bit off topic but I found C-Moon very underwhelming in the anime
the inversion stuff was cool, but they animated most of his actual fight so badly 😭
They did Jolyne’s Mobius Strip moment justice thankfully. The ost and presentation was so good
pucci’s use of c-moon was animated fine, but even ws barraging looked goofy as hell
Am I the only one who didn't understand the point of the Mobius strip? I just feel like Araki was flexing on schools with better lessons
A mobius strip is a shape that twists in such a way so that it only has one side. If you traced a finger along it, your finger would go the entire loop, both inside and out, before it comes back to its starting point because the shape is one-sided. C-Moon inverts an object's gravity, leading to some things becoming "inside out" when hit. You can see this with Jolyne's fingers, which, when hit by C-Moon, bulge the blood and muscles outside the skin where they shouldn't be. Mobius strips don't exactly work that way. Sure, they can technically go "inside out", but because of its one-sidedness, the shape stays the same. Therefore, Jolyne is able to use this to become unaffected by C-Moon's attacks.
I don’t really get how she actually made a Mobius Strip though considering the string has to eventually connect with the rest of her body in some way
C-moon’s inversion affects a small part rather than the entire body. If it did, Jolyne would be immediately dead when her hand was inverted
Can't be turned inside out if the inside is the outside.
Yeah. C-Moon literally looked like a kids drawing in the anime💀
it’s such a shame, c-moon is genuinely one of my favorite stands, it’s such a cool concept and looks sick in the manga
Yeah I also really like C-Moon but it was such a bruh moment in the anime
I found the anime itself to be pretty underwhelming 😭 I was looking forward to Stone Ocean's anime because I thought it was going to have the same quality as Golden Wind, maybe even better. I was wrong. Some scenes looked very wonky, the animation wasn't smooth like it was in other parts, and most of the soundtrack was recycled from Stardust Crusaders. I was expecting the Blu-Ray release to fix some of the bad-looking scenes but they didn't change anything. Netflix was the worst thing to ever happen to Jojo.
Im insanely bias about JoJo and most things related to JoJo and even though only partly but I agree. Even though the animation wasnt too bad and there were some scenes that I really liked(for example the scenes with the mobius strip looked awesome) there were lots of times where it did not look as good as it should have. It should have been atleast as high quality as part 5 the whole time but the C-Moon fight for example was mostly trash tbh. Netflix really didn't do justice for SO. As for the music they did as good as in other parts with the new OST but there really were too many reused songs from part 3. My biggest complaint regarding this matter is the use of SDC's main ost during the Pucci beatdown. I think they should have put Sonochi no sadame there. One thing I really liked however is the ending. I think they did an amazing job with everything in the Made In Heaven and the What a Wonderful World arc and choosing Roundabout for the final ending was way better than if they actually chose What a Wonderful World. I almost started crying it was so good and in my opinion its the best ending out of all the other animated parts.
I pretty much agree with everything you've said. The Mobius Strip bit was so beautifully executed, I remember being very amazed when I first saw it. But the others were pretty mediocre. I'm just upset that Stone Ocean was handled like this. The animation wasn't as quality as the other parts because the main team of David Pro was working on another anime called Urusei Yatsura at the time and Netflix rushing the release didn't make it any better. I still can't believe they didn't fix *anything* in the Blu-Ray release, other than the ghosting. I guess they didn't care about Stone Ocean as much.
I haven't seen the Blu-Ray release yet but then I guess im not missing out on too much. Also Morbius strip lol
LMAO Morbius striping everywhere
My favourite part of SO was where Jolyne said "It's morbin time" and morbius striped all over the place. Truly one of the animes of all time
Golden Wind was actually the outlier, it was the best animated Part by far with Stardust Crusaders coming in second. Stone Ocean wasn't done any worse than Phantom Blood or Diamond Is Unbreakable, except when it comes to the soundtrack which was lazily reused.
To be fair, Golden Wind is the most popular part in Japan, alongside Stardust Crusaders. Stone Ocean was probably the least popular part. I'm afraid Steel Ball Run will share the same fate with SO because it isn't as popular in Japan as well.
What makes you say part 7 isn't as popular in japan?
I researched and asked some Japanese people I know
Yeah I was just wandering what sources you had for your research. Like polls or something
Yeah, I've seen some polls too
Was DiU not animated very well? Watching SO it felt lower quality than previous parts buy DiU seemed fine to me
Maybe you watched the Blu-ray of Diamond is Unbreakable? Because the original TV version was rough, it clearly had a much lower budget than Parts 3 and 5. Part 1 is also handled kinda poorly, the Blu-ray fixed the art but the animation and the quality of the sound effects is clearly worse than the rest of the series. It legit felt like watching a slide show in certain scenes.
I watched on hulu in like 2019 so I dont think it was blu-ray. Do you have any examples of scenes that were particularly bad?
[Here is one example](https://youtu.be/jI86cj-tAnU). The first version of [Great Days](https://youtu.be/qPsiiVKhj3Q) was also rough.
Thank you
I think the fight was mostly well done outside of this scene which was definitely pretty badly done.
I liked the C-moon fight in the anime…
Same, didn't read the manga though
Well stands can change their sizes or stretch. Silver Chariot and Hierophant Green entering Joseph or Star Finger can be examples
Or it can just be an animation thing to make the punches look better (not that I think this specific scene looks very good)
I don't think they can become bigger or stretch otherwise the range component wouldn't make much sense
But we did see them change size tho The range might be effective range, a range were the stand is stronger
They may not become bigger but they can stretch. How can you explain Star Platinum being close ranged and using Star Finger?
It's their effective range not how much range they have
All things considered, that bone technically came from a hamon user, and it was before dio removed the residual hamon from his body
This part of the fight was so poorly animated it was beyond bad
Unfortunately I can't disagree but it was sick seeing Jolyne dodge punches from a stand
You know I always wondered how long The World's arms would stretch if its range is said to be 10 meters.
I think range is how far he can go from owner
It’s range≠it’s arm length
I ain't gonna sugarcoat it. **Star Finger proves the guys theory.**
God, They did C-Moon so goddamn dirty. It's such a wonderful design but they really did him dirty. He lacks all detail he had.
Manga readers when the anime is less detailed 😱☠️ (they had a heart attack)
Manga readers? Fucking lol, I'm an Anime only (Thinking about reading SBR)
Read it. It has so much detail in everything that I can't fathom it being animated faithfully.
Who shot >!Johnny Joestar?!<
Hajime no C-moon
BROOOO I FORGOT ABOUT ZOOM PUNCH, shit was legendary, I don’t think Joseph ever did it tho, but I guess star finger would kind of be like zoom punch in a way??
Actually Joseph did do the zoom punch against a random vampire after Kars stabbed Lisa Lisa in the back .
Really, I don’t remember but if you say so🤷♂️(and no way did you just un jokingly do an acshually 🤓lol)
I love how C-Moon is so slow that Jolyne didn't even have to use her stand's humanoid form to fight it
Yeah but don't worry, not in that way.
Nah man. That‘s some kind of evolved star finger. Hm…“star fist“? Nah- Pucci is not related to the joestars by blood (if we dont count him absorbing GB, which is a physical form of DIO‘s soul)….maybe…“grav fist?“ any ideas how to call this „ability?“ (except zoom punch?)
Well achtually, pucci mastered the ways of stando which is based on hamon 🤓
OH SHIT IS THIS A FUCKING RUROUNI KENSHIN REFERENCE??!?!???!!!
I mean, stands can shrink down in size, as shown by Silver Chariot and Hierophant Green in Part 3, so honestly, I think extending arm length would be a likely possibility.
The 2 meter range for close combat stand started to make sense now
Its all fun and games untill C - Moon shouts: gomu gomu no
Why does c-moon look so goofy in the first panel
So its the same type of stand as hamon