T O P

The cards are falling, be patient brothers and sistas! 🦍💪🏼

The cards are falling, be patient brothers and sistas! 🦍💪🏼

Tastybread

I keep wondering what Citadels clients are thinking right now. I’d be really worried about any investments I had with them.


MuteCook

They keep them in the dark. That’s why they use the media to hide when they do large selloffs.


Tastybread

Oh I didn’t even think about that. Just thought the media manipulation was to get us to sell. But yeah, a lot of their clients are probably old and don’t know any better.


No-Cherry-3544

Awe, that's really sad about Shitadel's uninformed clients. I read a ton, but some people don't. I truly feel bad for them. I honestly believe Ken & Co. would steal from anyone. So sad. I could never live with myself if I had hurt so many people (or any people). Kenny is a different breed, for sure. Definitely not ape material. Kenny is the ultimate anti-ape. Apes aren't in his class, we are SUPERIOR on EVERY single level. ❤️🦍🦍


Caliber70

if their money is with citadel i have no sympathy for them. there is no way they don't know what kind of shady shit they do, how their operation works by sabotaging businesses so they can get rich. also you have to be rich to throw in with a hedge fund, whoever lost money, they have some other way to make that money back. fuck them all.


Arkayb33

10M is the entry fee. I also have ZERO sympathy for them. Your job as a client is to make sure your vendor isn't into shady dealings. But that's probably the key selling point for all those morally bankrupt assholes. "Get greater returns with Kenny cause he's not above doing illegal shit to boost your gains."


Caliber70

10M? lol fuck them all. none of those clients are affected by this squeeze. they all have some way to get back, probably have some high rank in a corporation or inherited from their grandaddy, and they still don't have to work for the rest of their life.


Arkayb33

>they all have some way to get back, I'm 100% sure it starts with an address in the Caymans


Affectionate_Boot684

Cayman my ass...


Beef_swellington_I

even people in the pension funds they manage? they mostly manage institutions not individuals,,,,When they go down there are going to be a lot of teachers, policemen and state workers the end up on the short end


Caliber70

PERFECT. so even MORE angry people are going to be asking the SEC questions! and the banks and media and DTCC will also get interrogated! why was something ILLEGAL like naked shorting not SORTED OUT SOONER?? why were these 3 also mixed up in this and not telling the truth, instead complicit! o wait, the fine for Citadel is something like 10K while they make MILLIONS??! this is PERFECT. your system is corrupt af. it is probably better to burn it down to start fresh. the final squeeze to end naked shorting forever.


Radiant_Addendum_48

Agreed, they can all go down with the ship


MyBathroomProfile

Fucking a right, a huge problem in society nowadays is that too many people are quick to show sympathy to maggots.


iamrubberyouareglue9

All motivated by excessive greed.


the42ndtime

Kenny G for prison!


Radiant_Addendum_48

Yeah! Yeah! . . . Not the saxophone guy right?


Kowalski_Options

It's 108 degrees and I got Kenny g Christmas songs on.


Blitzkreig11930

He is a slug.


pressonacott

More like a parasitic leech sucking on the teets of every investor and company for his own personal gain and throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way.


NicknameInCollege

He'd have to build a space elevator to suck these tits, cuz they are jacked to the moon baby.


pressonacott

Well said ape. I don't think he can afford an elevator due to him liquidating his assets and to balance out his margin accounts and manipulations and only affording the the more than often Hardee's.


No-Cherry-3544

💯 percent.


XxSCRAPOxX

It’s not stealing, they are the back bone of the market. 1:5 stocks traded is trade by Citadel. The fed lends them money to help keep the market afloat. They are a monolith. They invest aggressively, using ultra modern methods and are amongst the best in the world if not the best. People gave them their money to make trades with hoping for big returns. They are aware they could lose. Though I’m sure not expecting to, especially after the year the market had. We caught them off Gaurd. We couldn’t read their fud and we don’t know what a top or a reversal looks like. Plus we’re all gambling or acting like we bought lotto tickets. This caught them on risky bets with their pants down. At Least we hope so. We have no idea what’s real and what’s not at the end of the day, for all we know the squeeze was to 70 and they’ve been promoting us to “hold the line” so they can buy new shorts to make their money back, or to slowly milk it back with calls and putts that expire worthless while keeping it trading mostly sideways for months. Who knows. Maybe that’s just what they want me to think so ll get bored or hopeless and sell… there’s really no way to know for sure. They have many strategies and can adapt to make profit in any market. I hope we’re winning, but we have no way of knowing where they’d re placing their chips. They know where ours are placed though. Hope all is apes really hold out to at least 100k. Know your worth.


Ischmetch

Post is worthwhile as a sanity check, but what do you mean by “they can buy new shorts to make their money back”? New short positions are created by borrowing shares and selling them.


Vale_Tenebris

I wouldn’t let him mop the floor when I reopen Toys r Us


Bananas_in_my_jammas

They are probably locked in as well, so they can't really do anything even if they wanted too.


nipvista

Pretty sure this is it. They told clients in 2008 that they wouldn't release their investments..


ClockworkOrange111

Yep, some of the media manipulation is also probably aimed at trying to reassure Shitadel clients that they don't have to worry about their investments. Well, if you give your money to the devil, prepare to get burned!


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BIGBILLYIII

Like I have been guilty of before, seeing your weekly paycheck deposits and quarterly statements, looking quickly at the % difference quarterly and writing it off as " well it turned into more money than I had before." When in reality it had a bad quarter normally while invested in a bad long term growth company on a higher risk plan while im in my 30s while I can, I would have been "XX" times better just moving it into gme in may 2020, what was I thinking?!?!


AdRepresentative5664

I agree


lookWTFstop

>A lot of people might not even know who their pension is with, or just connect it with "oh yeah, that's the name on my quarterly statement" - tons of people are very disengaged from their own savings. question is if shitdell looses it all do those people still get payed?


RofaBets

Nop, there is no way, if Shitadel went bankrupted their investor would lose everything. Same as if AMC or GME went bankrupted we would lose our investments, as simple as that. So the losers here sadly will be the poor people who invested on Shitadel not only Kenny boy.


lookWTFstop

Dam 🦫 can’t even say anything to that but, I sure as heck ain’t putting my money into big banks that miss manage cash, ❌only credit unions been with one for 2 years now they been great no fees no shady stuff, last time I had a bank they withheld my paycheck for a whole month due to their own negligence.


CrazyGunnerr

I know people like to think he will be broke, but I don't see that happening, I don't see how he will be hold financially accountable for the debt of the firm. I mean perhaps fine him, but he won't go broke.


-YourWifesBoyfriend

It would be a good idea for them to invest in amc right about now and cover their asses


IfUCKFATBITCHeSz

They probably believe the FUD coming from 99% of sources


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Donkey-Dong-Doge

They’re gambling too. When shitadel uses illegal practices to bankrupt businesses they profited. They can’t all of a sudden say they didn’t know when everything goes tits up.


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lookWTFstop

Shit I didn’t think about it that way thought it was old people with pension funds but if a million plus requirement is needed, and they haven’t left, then they in on it,


lookWTFstop

Shit I didn’t think about it that way thought it was old people with pension funds but if a million plus requirement is needed, and they haven’t left, then they in on it,


GooderThanAverage

I highly doubt Citadel's clients aren't aware of the situation. These are clients with many millions of dollars and they certainly have other professionals advising and managing their money moves. Thing is, pending their contractual obligations, they have to see it through for better or worse. And they're used to piggybacking off of Kenny's corruption so this likely isn't their first rodeo.


MSX362

I would be pulling any investments I have with them.


4815162342ar

If you aren't contractually tied, then yes.


MSX362

Ive got no idea how it works 🤷


Tastybread

Dude, we’re so fucking stupid. It must kill those millionaires that a bunch of morons on the internet are doing this to them.


Consistent-Syrup-69

It does. They can't even sleep at night. They dream of apes shoving crayons and bananas in their holes.


ZER0-Sama

meanwhile i stress about what my license plate should be ~~from~~ for my lambo


Unlucky13

IHODLED


Weak_Handed_1

10D


Salt_Owl1192

Mine is gonna say "NANNERS"


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Consistent-Syrup-69

It isn't just you, but idk if it's them.


Sorryaboutthefire

For the first time ever, being called stupid made me laugh and feel really good actually. Thanks for that!


CaPtAiN_KiDd

This comment is great. I have like a surface understanding of all this. I call it the Uppy Downy game.


Tyberious_the_akita

Poo flinging apes....


Dck_IN_MSHED_POTATOS

i'm smart


captainadam_21

Here's an example. The hedge fund comes up with a new investment idea called an alternative investment. They then have a buy in person where you make a certain commitment. For example 5 million. They don't take it all up front. Your initial commitment might be 20-25% of your commitment. Throughout the next 3-5 the investment will make capital calls in which the investor need to contribute more money. Eventually you'll have the full 5 million invested. Years 5-10 you'll start getting a return on your investment paid back out. Year 10-12 out will start winding down and possibly be finished by year 15. There are requirements to investment in these and you need to be a baller. They are extremely illiquid and your cash will likely be tied up for a decade. They have done extremely well over the past decade. Very popular will the mega rich and large charitable organizations since they don't have big liquidity concerns. This is just an example. Some start retiring money faster. But almost all are at least a 10 year commitment. So there is no way you get your money out of you ask for it. When there is a distribution it is pro rata based on your commitment amount


MSX362

Thank you for the wrinkle 🙂


Quattro2021

That’s something they have to figure out, not my deal. They’ve made enough money. Now it’s our time.


Dr-Chim-Richolds

Ask Michael Jordan


NoobWhoLikesTheStock

I'd be like Murray from Goodfellas "I'd like my money"


friendigan

“Never met a ball buster like you in my life!”


WittyPipe69

I imagine there is probably some type of buffer for them, their clients probably have no clue who they have their retirement funds tied up in. The company they work for probably just sets it up with some other group and nobody knows what’s what.


DirkDieGurke

This needs to get out more! They're playing chicken with their customers money.


JERUSALEMFIGHTER63

Downvote bots on this post are spicy ha


REBELRAVEN76

Where's the correction bot at?? ..it's Shit-A-Del lol


clemintina2000

The first RAT to jump ship....awesome....good sign for us. who's next? As for their clients....i bet most of them don't know anything about what's happening.


UtherPenn

Echo chamber news. IMO this is basically a DD post but posted on a site instead of a sub


J_walke3r

There’s never enough confirmation bias/disappointment for some


ToyTrouper

Considering how hard Wall Street-owned media has been suppressing the truth, there might be people unaware of what's going on. For example, they also might not know naked short selling, and high dark pool trade volume have both been confirmed, validating the AMC 500K squeeze thesis. AMC stock is potentially worth 500K (or more!) per share in a squeeze. It's an opportunity to free oneself, family and friends from wage slavery. To not have to worry if your kids can afford to have kids. That's why it's worth reminding people, even if we have already heard it and know it.


MariusNinjai

as long it's keeping spirits high i don't care


Complex_Commission96

Those are mostly paper losses. It’s not going to materialize until margin call or when they cover. I’m not patting my back just yet.


ShinyWisenheimer

I was wondering about this. They haven’t technically lost shit yet right?


wibble17

They’re losing whatever they are paying in interest. Big losses don’t come until they cover.


Complex_Commission96

They spent some money on fines and fees but for the most part, no, they have not covered, so no lost.


2JAYZwithNAS

It’s all on paper dog. Until they actually get margin called or actually start covering, it means nothing.


kongs_cousin

True


trivyn

Are they losing a substantial amount of money through cost of borrowing?


2JAYZwithNAS

Tbh I’m not the guy to ask. I could make an educated guess but I’d rather be sure than to feed you bs.


RobotWelder

Who’s gonna call those margins?


2JAYZwithNAS

Who knows? It’s an infinite amount Matryoshka dolls made of shit at this point. It’s all gonna come to ahead at some point but who knows really? Best bet if nothing triggers it, GME NFT dividend will.


Dutchnamn

A lot of hedge funds are funded by banks for leverage. In the case of Archeos it was Credit Suisse that wanted the money back. And yes, it was based on paper losses that were getting out of hand.


SeparateFactor8924

Where is this fine read at?


kongs_cousin

https://franknez.com/deputy-global-treasurer-michael-kurlander-resigns-from-citadel/


Genji_Digital

Thank you sir


kongs_cousin

Anytime!


reflectedsymbol

https://franknez.com/how-soon-will-hedge-funds-get-margin-called-amc/ AMC article


ajamesc55

Blog post, not really an article, just another “Reddit” “dd” guy


Front_Taro

So 500k confirmed ?


MuteCook

It’s basically July, 700 k


ObligationOk8118

so every month we raise the floor 100k? let's do that lol. spread the word! hahahahaha ha


acidx0

!remindme August


blacksolocup

I'm here from August. 800k


The-Moon-is-Cold2day

SAY...IT...FUCKIN...LOUDER!!!


One_2_watch_4

IT


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#IT


acidx0

E-E-E-E-T


ImMitchBitch

I read it. Now what?


ObligationOk8118

abra cadabra we are all rich. Hurry up and Hold!


DarknusAwild

Can it happen Monday please


Penny_Wise_Investor

Patience young ape.


kongs_cousin

🤞🏼


carljohnjacob

Wen Monday?!?


Deopunk

I feel like shorting Citadel would be a good idea.


kongs_cousin

🤔....yup!


clinto1983

Link please


kongs_cousin

https://franknez.com/deputy-global-treasurer-michael-kurlander-resigns-from-citadel/


WUKONS

thank you 🦍


kongs_cousin

👍🏼


[deleted]

Your phone is nicely charged. Good Ape.


kongs_cousin

Gotta keep it ready for mo-ass, even on the weekends 😆


Professor-Shuckle

Shitadel right in the toilet where it belongs


Rainbowphoebe

Once again they don’t lose anything except interest til they cover.


Tyberious_the_akita

18% SI on billions is still a shit ton of losses.


Rainbowphoebe

They are not paying 18 percent interest.... si is the percent to float being shorted I believe. They do incur some losses but they have yet to pay the piper.


Tyberious_the_akita

I was under the impression they were paying interest on the shorts they borrow. Perhaps my smooth brain doesn't quite understand. I do eat crayons and fling poo at my family.


Rainbowphoebe

They do but the interest rate and short interest (si)are two different things. Some borrowed with much lower rates now that is hard to find the rates are higher to borrow. Some are charging up to 19 percent to borrow now. Does not mean that’s what older shorts are paying on their borrowed shares from months ago. They are trying to wait us out. These billions have yet to be paid they have “lost” in these reports.


Tyberious_the_akita

Thank you you for explaining. Looks like I have some reading to do tonight. Gotta know what I'm talking about....


Rainbowphoebe

I only know from watching trey trades. 🤣😂🤣. He explained the charts once.


max1001

They are paying like 1.8 percent dude. If the interest was 18 percent, they would had cover already. Stop spreading misinformation.


Tyberious_the_akita

Not trying to, just confused between interest and SI. As I said, I obviously need to do more reading....


wirebeads

To the moon your glorious apes 🦍 I will hold for you, if you all promise to hold for me. 500k floor. Retail owns the float. No ones selling. Hedgies are diddily doodily fuckity fuck fucked! 💎🙌🚀🌖


kongs_cousin

I hold for every one of you beautiful apes!


Successful-Whole4307

Fucking reddit 🤣


kongs_cousin

Right! 🤣🤣


Zomolos

Seems like MSM can’t entirely withstand the absolute truth.


reflectedsymbol

Losing billions so far!


kongs_cousin

“So far” 😍


Sorryaboutthefire

I’m guessing we won’t be using Citadel to hold our money after this? How fucking delicious would that be though?


LYossarian13

Blackrock or Vanguard though...


Sorryaboutthefire

When the time comes, you know THAT’S gonna be a big topic up here


Realistic_Medicine31

All this reads is buy more Is that correct?


kongs_cousin

That’s how I read it! 🤷🏽‍♂️


Tyberious_the_akita

Instead of scrolling through the comments to find the source you've already provided 3 times, I'm just going to politely ask you to provide the source again. After 10 minutes have passed and you haven't provided the requested source I will threaten you with a down vote and potential castration... thank you for your cooperation.


kongs_cousin

https://franknez.com/deputy-global-treasurer-michael-kurlander-resigns-from-citadel/


kongs_cousin

🤣 sorry brother I’m at work..


Tyberious_the_akita

And now I'm being downvoted for being sarcastic and truthful.....


kongs_cousin

Not me brother, I picked up on the sarcasm 😆


Tyberious_the_akita

Lol


ValuableFrosting000

Bwahahahah. This is the way!


kongs_cousin

👨🏽‍🦯😆


aldorn

Surely they make insane money on shorted stocks throughout the global market which can cover this..?


RobotWelder

I’ve been asking this question for weeks


REBELRAVEN76

APE TITS FOOKIN JACKED!


REBELRAVEN76

Melvin & Shit-A-Del both FOOOKED!


Still_Night_110

Remember if we were ever wrong , they wouldn’t be telling us they’re trying to stop us from losing money. When have hedge funds, banks , CNBC , Fox Business , ever cared about retail investors losing money?


kongs_cousin

Exactly!


Linsanity998877

🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀


santanah1

😍😍😍😍


Stik2thePlaN

SOURCE ?


kongs_cousin

https://franknez.com/deputy-global-treasurer-michael-kurlander-resigns-from-citadel/


So_REAL_one

Biased article, but I like what I'm reading nonetheless.


TunaLurch

Do I short citadel?


kongs_cousin

When the opportunity arises I’m going to short the fuck out of it, funded with my AMC tendies


Humble_Report_7618

The way this is


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Tyberious_the_akita

Good bot


lethal3185

No speculation. It is a sinking ship!


Flat_Accountant_2117

They over leveraged their short positions and still keep digging a deeper hole for themselves every day. Screw them.


IfUCKFATBITCHeSz

Lock them up! Lock them up!


pulltoy21

Can’t help but wonder how many shares they actually own though. Have they really lost any $? If they own millions of shares they made tons of cash too. Just a thought. I hope they really lost that much in real $ and not just on paper. I just have doubts that they actually did. Since there are soooooo many shorts still not covered too


kongs_cousin

We’ll see the real number when Margie calls, I really don’t see the big wigs at the banks risking this too much longer 🤷🏽‍♂️


pulltoy21

I hope they sell and lose! I really do.


kongs_cousin

Honestly jail time will be sufficient enough for me..oh and a few Gorillian in my account..


pulltoy21

That would be glorious. I sold all of mine long time ago before the spike which is sad on my part. But I’m heavily invested in some other super short sold companies (Wkhs/HYLN/ride) that are dying over this BS as well and hope it all comes crashing down on these hedges for doing this to so many companies. So many have lost their lives, livelihood etc while they get rich. Super sad!! And they continue to post fake news articles on all of them! Scare tactics! I hope you make a killing on this!


kongs_cousin

My father in law lost over 500k in 08-09 because of these fucks, I’m out for revenge!


bondane03

Couldn’t read , to busy vigorously “massaging the numbers “ due to that screen shot


kongs_cousin

🤣


stockup25

Don't leave town Michael. Karma will come back for you. Maybe you should make the call to whistleblowers. Whistle like a birdy or possibly end up in jail. A quote from Denzel Washington " wanna get payed , or you wanna go home ". Chirp chirp lol. I would not want to be Kenny Griffin right now. His couple hundred million dollar algorithm computers are totally lost right now. Kenny may have to spend another 200 mill to program apes into the algorithm. His cards fell already. SEC and FINRA know exactly what the hedgies are doing, that's why they're not doing anything. HODLing till the end.


MikeyG117

Sink those ships!


CYR0N3

You got a friend request bruh


MARCPT82

Can we short citadel?


widener2004

What is the source of this?


kongs_cousin

https://franknez.com/deputy-global-treasurer-michael-kurlander-resigns-from-citadel/


ChoboAttack

Looks like a smug asshole. Imagine how smart he thought he was when he was raking in profit by illegally naked short selling everything in sight.


JohnnyKayak

I think this is the reason Hollywood’s finest aren’t coming out in support. They’re clients…..


kongs_cousin

My thoughts exactly!


easybakeevan

Tries to sink ship. Becomes the ship who sinks. I guess that’s just ironic. Don’t ya think… a little tooooo ironic. Ya I really do think.


After-Ad5108

I agree with the comments in the article, someone (a prominent youtuber) needs to interview him 🚀


jonsnuuuuuu

Mmmm yeah baby feed my confirmation bias


SortaABartender

And every ape in between!


jteta12

Unrealized loses. Yes.


Humble_Report_7618

I like it, but make no mistake…..the author said that, there no quotation marks there


drfeelgoood88

dumb money baby


tegh77

Can we apes short Citadel shares if they even have any? That would be poetic


Tallguy71

Let’s go short on Citadel 😂


xZeusXL

Alexa, Play cry me a river by Justin Timberlake 😌


griff0214

Fuck Citadel


LakersMoney

I hold


Rachael013

Just set stock alarms and do life. It will be a nice surprise when AMC hits x point you set it for.


kongs_cousin

I’m a 6’4” 230lb ape and I will literally cry like a baby when it hits my price..🤞🏼🤞🏼


groovicool486

plot twist: turn the tables and short Shitadel. (edited to correct the spelling of Shitadel)


RoseyOneOne

What’s the source, please?


Blitzkreig11930

Too bad we can't short them!!!


BudLite293

Source?


max1001

Again. You guys are just grasping at straw now. People leave jobs all the time.