European Innovation Scoreboard Rankings, 2019
By - quixotic_cynic
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For once, we're not in last place. *score*
Take *that*, Romania!
In a loving way, of course.
Loving, caring and concerned.
That's where we belong.
Hey, I saw someone drag a Lada with a horse in Romania. That's pretty innovative, if you ask me. 1hp car
that was probably russia, in Romania we drag Dacias son
Hey, you were supposed to be modest...
> Take that, Romania!
"Thank god for Alabama" - Mississippi (or it's the other way around)
Depends on what state you're in.
Sad moldova is actually always last
Now you see how romanians feel and why we love Bulgaria.
Oh please, we're probably No.1 innovators in excuses for not innovating and excuses in general lol
😁 I ❤️ Bulgaria, This weekend I'll spend it in Veliko. But maybe we should do something about it, change our governments and try not to be the lasts anymore.
>change our governments
Nah. All we need to do is line up the most corrupt ones and shoot them all. The rest will fall in line really fast after that./j, but not really. 😂
Eastern European solutions
Is there a reason you can think of for your nation's lack of innovation?
My own conclusion would be the "brain drain" where more educated people move to more developed nations since the wages would be higher for them. But that doesn't explain why not all the richest nations top the list.
Lack of government support. In many cases the bureaucracy and corruption makes it even more difficult. That's why the software sector is so well developed compared to others. All you need is a laptop, an idea and a lot of work.
The "brain drain" doesn't help either.
You can’t innovate when you are poor and struggling to survive every day(financially)!
If you flip it, we're number 1.
That's innovative, you have risen over Bulgaria.
Which means that that they are now only second when the chart flips. Shows you that not all innovation is good.
Suffering from success.
You are now less innovative, back to number 1 with you
I thought Romania had a booming tech industry these days? I keep seeing articles about it.
To be fair, yes, there's a shitton of IT jobs. To be brutally fair, not much is innovation, rather outsourcing or just companies hiring cheaper workers. Not to diss Romanian programmers, some are top notch, but that's what the landscape looks like overall.
it does but the tech industry is owned by foreign entities
I can sleep well knowing you guys are doing worst in some aspect then us.
That's not very modest of you!
I'm racking my brain to figure out what have we innovated recently.
Well, I did see that someone made a Turkish pepper pizza.
We have alot of small companies that innovate on very specific fields. This ranking is probably also based on possibilitie of innovation, things like being able to stop working for a time and high education
Wait, what is happening between The Netherlands and Finland? Is there a rivalry that I haven't heard of?
Started as a joke in some tv show about how we're always second in happiness polls with finland being first. These days it's grown to a friendly rivalry, since in most statistics we happen to end up quite near one another.
I think of Netherlands as “Nordic-lite” sometimes because of how similarly it scores with the Nordic countries in a lot of these statistics
It does sometimes seem like we have more in common with Denmark than our direct neighbors. I mean, there's a strong link with Belgium but that's just the Flanders part.
Dutch guy living in Denmark. Besides the language and currency, Danish people are more like the Dutch than Belgians are.
There's research that says that the Netherlands is culturally the same as a Nordic country, and culturally less similar to its neighboring countries.
Check the cultural dimensions of Hofstede and compare Nordic countries and the Netherlands with each other:
You'll see that they score very similarly on all dimensions. Maybe the Dutch are slightly more long-term oriented, but the Dutch lack respect for hierarchy, care for personal freedoms, care for others and quality of life (social democracies). They are quite fine with taking decisions without all information at hand and not being in control of everything (results in more trust in others and the state, and teachers and leaders being allowed to say "I don't know"), and they indulge themselves. Just like the Nordic countries.
Keep in mind that this is research on average culture of a group relative to other cultures and does not necessarily apply to all individuals in that culture. E.g. hierarchical Nordic and Dutch control freaks exist.
Absolutely. A Finn here and I lived in the Netherlands for a year and felt at home very quickly. The Netherlands and the Dutch culture feels very Nordic in a good way.
They all speak English really well too. Outside Scandinavia I've struggled to find another non-native country that speaks as good English as we do.
That’s even one of the stats I had in mind when writing the comment!
Reading through the recent posts makes very sad reading for the Netherlands, time for a sub against bulgaria instead?
The sub was made after a dutch comedian pointed out that Finland is always just a bit better than the Netherlands in statistics. So it's no surprise to see Finland constantly beating the Netherlands.
It ebbs and flows. Sometimes there's 10 in row for NL, sometimes 10 for Finland. The ultimate victor has yet to be decided.
Yes. Because the Dutch have no other natural rivals to have fun with and we Finns are bored of rivaling the Swedes who are too arrogant to be fun to win. Thus we stared a new friendly rivalry with the Dutch. It will last until they become Nordic and then we can ally ourselves in friendly competition against the bastard Swedes.
It's just a Reddit meme
I wouldn't call it a rivalry but only cus were miles better than they are.
sure doesn't look like it here
Biased polls! Bribery a well known finish tactic
I want to disagree with Dutch people but you guys just have too good infrastructure and a bike friendly environment.
And we have frikandellenbroodjes. A world renown snack.
I detest Frikadelle but can't even joke about Dutch cuisine because you guys have bitterballen and Kibelling.
Good effort Netherregions
I'm looking forward to Statista's "Modest Violators of Human Rights". s/
Jokes aside, maybe the least innovative European country is still "modest" on global scale?
Would that mean that the categories are "Modest Violators of Human Rights", "Moderate Violators of Human Rights", "Strong Violators of Human Rights", and "Violators of Human Rights leader"?
Sugarcoating is delicious, same with “moderate”, like what?
How do they modestly and moderately invent stuff?
Shouldn't we call it an emerging innovator if it's at the bottom of the list?
Hello, yes, this is the UN, we'd like to hire you.
At the bottom of the list for Europe still doesn't mean at the bottom of the list overall. or are you suggesting there's more innovation happening in Somalia than in Bulgaria??
They're just trying not to show off.
Romania is innovating in reverse
Evolving, just backwards
Very much so
Nah, Romania is full of smart people, more so than many other EU nations, it's just that they all move to the other EU nations and innovate there. Same story for a lot of Eastern Europe. My Uni's maths and science department was at least half Eastern Euro.
Same case for most of asia
The holy Mediterranean trinity at it again.
"Why Is It When Something Happens, It's Always You Three?"
Because you know you'll have a good time when you are in company of a Greek, a Spaniard and an Italian.
If a Portuguese jumps in, then you might as well call it the Mare Nostrum party
Whomst has awakened the Spanish one?
The Trinity shall once again be complete.
Quintet! Don't forget Malta and Cyprus.
Yeah but thats the good one
The good N word
10 points to ~~Gryffindor~~Kalmar Union
if there was a list of enjoying life and not having anything stuck up your butt, you know theyd be at the top !
Suck it Netherlands :)
Until next time, Finnish scum
Well meet again Swamp German :)
Hey, I'll have you know that German swamps are perfectly fine and don't deserve to be slandered like this!
are they as good as the german internet ?
about as good as your weather I hear
Then hold my balls you Russian forest gnome
That's just harsh.. \^_^
You beat us this time damn it.
And next time, too.
Go back to your sauna
It’s not hot yet.
Just got out, but just for you, I'll do one more victory lap.
I love this rivalry
I am doing my masters just to spite Finland >:(
You can do it kameraad, let them smell a poopie! >:(
Suck it Finland :)
Den glider in, den glider in I mål igen !
-95 NEVER FORGET torille perkele!
*Ok, nu tar vi dom, nu tar vi dom!*
Go jump in a lake.
Oh wait you have to cut a hole in the lake first. Tough luck.
Initially read it as “Sweden has decided that they are the most innovative nation” and not “Sweden tops the table of innovative European countries” so in my head they had just made a table to show off how they were better than everyone.
That would have been the cheapest way to get to the top. Instead we had to spend billions in innovation funds etc etc.
Sounds like a lot of hassle, 10 minutes of photoshop and i can have Romanian leading by 200 without any of that hard work
Ahh shit m8, with this swedish thing you can do the same in only 5 minutes
God damn it I'm a muppet, I read it the same way. I was thinking "God damn what an ego on Sweden".
Wouldn't surprise me tbh.
Yeah would be a very Swedish way to do it.
the right way
The lagom way.
lagom is the way
To be honest that sounds like something we would do, as smug as we are.
Proud of u Estonia
We all are proud of the little Estonia.
Congrats, you beat Portugal!
Considering the manpower the rest of the countries above have, go Estonia!
Netherlands into Nordic???
Fine with me, fellow flatlander. Bring a cargo bike and some pickled herring.
It'll get better.
Get fucked netherlands
As always the important thing is not being first, it's being above Denmark.
You think about us! <3
Only good thoughts <3
Fuck you Sweden! Fuck yoooouuuu!
Must we be among the last in every fucking way??
Thanks to you, we aren't last in most of the ranks. Thank you for that.
For what it's worth, Romania produces some fantastic scientists and engineers. I personally know many. It's just a pity they need to go abroad to flourish :/
This chart is based on date from 2019. The [2021 interactive version is here](https://interactivetool.eu/EIS/EIS_2.html). In that chart Switzerland is ahead of Sweden so I had to filter it to "EU countries" to remain on top :-)
Switzerland is missing a number of variables, that's the reason there is a EU-only category in the first place.
That's not saying they wouldn't be first even if they had all of the measurements, it unlikely would make much difference really, but they don't.
Publishing a graph on innovation that is 2 years old is wrong.
Here’s a new one: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/industry/policy/innovation/scoreboards_en
And here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1252589/summary-innovation-score-europe/
Paywall? Who invented that?
YES BELGIUM BEATING THE NL AND FRANCE
BELGIUM STRONK! BELGIUM RELEVANT!
I'd say soon Belgium can into space but we produce a lot of spaceflight parts already.
Boom, mic drop!
You can tell it's old because the UK is still included in the data.
As a Belgian I prefer the newer numbers.
Varmaa ruottalaisten tekemä lista
What makes the northern countries such great innovators?
Bad weather and expensive alcohol - We spend 6 months in darkness per year, indoors trying to come up with ideas to finance a holiday in the sun with cheap drinks... ;-)
Well the Scottish have proper shit weather (even by UK standards) and before the world wide web pretty much all the weather allowed them to do was to disappear into the garden shed and make stuff like the steam engine and TV so they could enjoy their life without leaving shelter.
Pickled herring makes for big brain people? All that Omega-3 doing work.
The Nordics and Netherlands being based as always.
You win this round Finland
I read a lot of science and technology magazines and internet articles and don’t feel I’m reading an over abundance of Nordic countries innovations. Perhaps I’m reading the wrong stuff but most seem to come from the UK and Germany. I’m only talking about science and technology before Reddit attacks.
Edit: to save any more replies. Many have answered it’s a per capita calculation. Thanks for the feedback people of more knowledge than me.
The methodology is here:
It has metrics eg. `International scientific co-publications per million population`.
But also some weird stuff like `Air emissions by fine particulate matter (PM2.5) in Industry`
Not to mention than the vast majority of those indicators are directly and greatly affected by GDP/PPP. This chart could very well be "Countries by PPP" and have very few outliers.
Yeah you get points for spending loads on R&D, which I approve of, but that just shows you're trying to generate innovation, not that you did. There's a lot of ways to spend money badly on things marked "R&D" payrises for directors of funding agencies and directors of institutions, spending money on what the old senior scientists and not what the young ones with new ideas want to do etc. That's a classic problem.
so pick and choose the deciding factors to manipulate the results...
The U.K. and Germany are much bigger countries. The population of London alone is the almost the same size as Sweden as a whole.
For example, you’ve probably heard of more successful companies that were founded in the U.K. over ones founded in Sweden. That’s because the U.K. has much more but on a per capita basis Sweden probably does better.
I’m not sure how this innovation score is calculated but I can imagine it takes into account population size if Luxembourg is up near the top.
> For example, you’ve probably heard of more successful companies that were founded in the U.K. over ones founded in Sweden. That’s because the U.K. has much more but on a per capita basis Sweden probably does better.
Also Scandinavian/Nordic companies that make it big sometimes cease to be recognized as Scandinavian/Nordic in origin. They may move to other countries.
Plus there's innovation outside of the corporate world. The government may be more innovative in Scandinavia, eg. in digitalization.
That and if it's not a consumer-good then it's largely invisible to people who don't work in that field.
E.g. you wont hear much about countries producing industrial machinery you wont read about it in some tech magazine/news site.
Yep, Denmark for example has one of the world's biggest and most innovative hubs for industrial robotics, but only engineers and nerds know about it.
Also the largest or atleast one of the largest transportation corporations - Maersk! It is your largest corporation, right?
You mean pork?
This is true. How many non-Nordics know that Spotify and Minecraft is Swedish or that Lego is Danish?
Or Linux being Finnish
Biggest one by a factor of a few hundred right here.
What runs the internet, half the phones on the planet, and almost every integrated device (cars, aircraft, fridges, TVs etc...) and tech company on earth?
Some code a Finnish guy wrote in his basement. Legend.
That is the most sensational depiction of Linux (and Linus) I've ever seen.
Thanks Reddit! :D
The majority of computers on earth run Linux, an open-source (everyone can see how it's built, and anyone can contribute code through a review process) kernel (core of an operating system) started by Linus Torvalds, a Finnish software developer.
The consumer PC market and iPhones are outliers within computing, and the only place where you see commercially developed kernels such as NT (Windows) and Darwin (OSX) have significant market share.
Generally speaking, companies want to have a kernel they can see, understand and modify if needed and not need to worry about the stability or choices of a single entity for the future of their system.
It's crowd sourced software development, big companies are involved, and no single entity has the power to control how it's used. With freedom to use and modify it how you want and so many people working on it it's no wonder it's become so prevalent.
As time has gone on, companies like Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Google and thousands of others as well as individuals have contributed their code to the Linux kernel, as they all themselves use it to run their internal systems or create the systems which run it.
Why develop your own kernel (27 million lines of code today) when you can just take one that already works and modify it to work for what you need?
Finno-swedish even hehe
You don’t get to claim us just because you speak our language.
Absolutely, Linus Torvalds (personal hero of mine by the way), comes from Finland, but it's hard to give Finland all the credit there. The whole software revolution Linux spearheaded was that it was open source and freely collaborative. There's several thousand developers that have contributed countless lines of code to the kernel from basically everywhere throughout the decades. And looking back near the millenium year his inner circle was a pretty mixed group of nationalities in charge of maintaining key parts of the kernel repository [https://www.wired.com/2001/10/kernel/](https://www.wired.com/2001/10/kernel/)
Wow I actually didn't know that. Now I'm eager to casually mention that like I've known it for years.
Lego is easy, as the only Legoland used to be in Denmark.
Yes, or they will just put just Switzerland’s flag on it:
Yeah, exactly. Almost every day I read some press release where a Nordic country has gotten millions of Silicon Valley funding or something like that, and then when I go to the company website there's hardly any mention that it's Nordic. It seems like the ones angling toward global (or at least North American) success try to appear as American as possible.
We have a lot of companies people generally don’t know of. Fx here in Denmark we have companies like terma and others making military equipment (software/radar etc.) exporting to many countries
Fun fact: Stockholm has 0,8 unicorns per 100k inhabitants, only second behind silicon Valley at 1,4 per 100k inhabitants.
Maybe you care the most about those kinds of things? Also, if you only read English papers then that’s probably a big reason as well.
That's a pretty steep cliff at Romania.
Below Sweden, damn it!
Nordic gang, superior as always.
That's 2 years old lmao
Damn it! Beaten by the ROMAnians again!🇷🇴❌❌🇷🇴
Next time the Bulgayrians will be at the bottom of the chart! 🇧🇬ТРИ МОРЕТА 🇧🇬
I exist, that’s already a big point in innovation.
How is that score mesured ?
Anyone that’s ever started a business knows, that innovation is equal parts idea and execution. Unfortunately for the execution you need capital, which the disadvantaged countries are lacking. it’s been shown many times that innovation is handicapped in a capital-starved environment therefore the poor nations have a huge disadvantage to overcome to catch up. It’s good to see some examples like Estonia outperform expectations.
> the poor nations have a huge disadvantage to overcome to catch up. It’s good to see some examples like Estonia outperform expectations.
You may be inverting cause and effect here. Some countries are poor because they have policies that do not encourage investment. A country doesn't need to be rich to have a lot of capital available, that can be brought by foreign investment.
Estonia has had a "business friendly" legislation ever since they became independent from the Soviet Union, that's why they have progressed so much.
Congratulations Sweden. (We are a bit jealous over here, but we would never tell it to your face. :) )
Mind the gap France 😏
Take that insolence back or I’m telling on you to Macron >:(
Why are we so trash
Huh! We are on the list! // Poland