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pumpkinescobar70

[non paywall ](https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/W7c8Fd)


Visible-Fishing466

Your not taking into account the Jury. I sat in in an open and shut case where the suspect in an incest case on recorded in car video said “yea I ate that stank pussy; I should have fucked her stupid ass” about his at the time 14 ur old daughter. I saw that video for the first time at the same time the jury did. “Not guilty”. Released to a home where his other daughter just reached the age of 14. The one he violated was 19 at the time of the trial.


RedEgg16

WTF


PerfectNemesis

OJ case again


elisedoble

Jesus.


coronappletea

That's fucking bullshit.


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JamesAlbini

How many jury trials has Deborah Gonzalez ever tried? Who hires the ADAs? Do you even know what we are all talking about?


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JamesAlbini

Why are we comparing Mrs. Gonzalez to Ken? She ran on a platform of being opposite of any of his practices. He seemed to get more guilty verdicts. Or, I’m sorry, his ADAs seemed to get more guilty verdicts. None were ever accused of prosecutorial misconduct. I dunno…seems to me like she isn’t a good leader.


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pumpkinescobar70

"I’ve served for over 25 years as a prosecutor and defense attorney in this judicial circuit, and I take very seriously my duty to oppose government abuse,” Wiltshire said. “I have never had one of our prosecutors commit misconduct that required the court to declare a mistrial in a serious felony case. That is something that just never happens. What these prosecutors did in this case is an outrage. All of us that live here in Athens and Oconee County deserve much better than this from our district attorney.”


DanforthWhitcomb_

The issue is less the misconduct itself and more that he had a known history of it before she hired him and made him #3 in her office.


cattapstaps

Do you have nothing better to do with your time?


JamesAlbini

You must have tried as many cases as she has and know all about the courtroom too


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pumpkinescobar70

she hired them no? also hired the ADA who hid evidence from defense in the Oconee rape case..... he was caught doing so in another state before she hired him.


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I knew Ari. She was a cool human being, and was a very generous person. This shit is sad. The state justice system failed her family big-time.


pumpkinescobar70

Remember this when it comes time to vote for DA. She's incompetent and a liar. The little scuffle her friend got into out in Watkinsville showed her true colors.


mtamrphine

What happened


pumpkinescobar70

[Statement](https://www.classiccitynews.com/post/joint-statement-apologetic-for-da-gonzalez-s-insensitive-remarks-about-oconee-county)There was a Democratic party at a restaurant in Watkinsville where she was in attendance. One of the patrons that was just there and was not part of the party tried to leave to his car. Her buddy blocked the exit and was a dick about it. The patron didn't take to kindly to not being let through their party to leave. He knocked her friend off his seat. Was nothing more than that. She in turn decided to make it all about herself. Made up a grand story how it was all politicaly motivated, how it took 10 of her friends to get the guy off her friend. How she was threatened feared for her life because it was in her mind some lunatic MAGA supporter. Lied to the Athens Banner Herald to fit her narritve it was a politicaly motivated attack. It had nothing to do with politics, said patron was pissed he was told he couldn't leave a public exit because it was a private party. Simple as that. Then sent out an email to her folks saying she's the most hated woman in Oconee, everyone in the county are white supremacists. That the attack was politically motivated, she feels safer in the iron triangle than Oconee. She won't go to Oconee without backup because she fears for her life.


Sweaty_fourSports

So sad. My heart breaks all over again for her family and her friends.


Basic-Entertainer529

What makes me especially angry about this is he was posting jokes about it on Instagram when it happened. He knew he killed a person. People like that deserve to be in prison for not respecting human lives. Did they not use his Instagram as evidence?


MonokromKaleidoscope

*Acquitted on all charges?* Could we at least pretend to have a justice system?


DanforthWhitcomb_

We do. The jury found that the state failed to shown that the defendant was driving. That’s exactly how it’s supposed to work.


MonokromKaleidoscope

You're right. I was just posting my knee-jerk initial reaction... because this is reddit, and I was frustrated. You raise a decent point though, and I don't want to argue. I mostly just feel bad for the victim's family.


DanforthWhitcomb_

Totally agreed there. He should not have been driving to begin with due to his DUI.


JamesAlbini

Deborah Gonzalez


PHPApple

Yeah, definitely the DA that brought forth the charges and not the jury that acquitted them


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How is there not enough evidence to keep this person locked up


DanforthWhitcomb_

Can’t prove he was the driver=no proof beyond a reasonable doubt=acquittal.


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Shit bro that must be why people drive the way they do around Athens


JamesAlbini

Deborah Gonzalez


42Cobras

Her family deserves so much better.


Sweaty_fourSports

My thoughts too. What a slap in the face to her parents. I’m sick about it.


JamesAlbini

Deborah Gonzalez


ValVenis69

Are you a bot? Just repeating her name doesn’t really do anything lol


JamesAlbini

Lol nah. I actually voted in the election for Patterson first, then Chafin. Just wanted a DA with some trial experience to avoid outcomes like this. She’s (her office) losing a lot of trials. Victims aren’t getting justice. Prosecutors are being accused of misconduct. It’s just sad. The people of Athens deserve better.


Embarrassed-Manager1

So then why copy paste her name on every single comment instead of contributing information like this Just makes you look weird I don’t like her either but your approach of just throwing her name out over and over without additional comment is strange at best obnoxious at worst


JamesAlbini

Ok. Sorry, dad.


AmbystomaMexicanum

So write a comment on the post that says that instead of just mindlessly commenting her name over and over until someone bites lol.


tulipz10

How did they acquit him?


JamesAlbini

Deborah Gonzalez


SinServant

Wow, that’s fucked.


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Waveshine420

His Oglethorpe charges are still pending.


JamesAlbini

Deborah Gonzalez. And don’t call our place a shithole.


Nijindia18

You're delusional


JamesAlbini

Delusional about what? Or are we just saying random “pop” words now?


Insight12783

It actually is a shit hole.


JamesAlbini

We have a Republican Governor and two Democratic US Senators. We are the definition of America!


CamxThexMan3

damn, this dude got a superstar lawyer. seems pretty cut and dry from the story lol


Elegant-Ad3236

What a great job by the DA and her staff! Way to lose an open and shut case!


MonokromKaleidoscope

This definitely reinforces the "soft on crime" accusations that her detractors make.


Elegant-Ad3236

It’s either that or jury nullification


MonokromKaleidoscope

Yeah. Rule of law is looking pretty toothless. Wild west out here these days. Be safe.


tableleg7

An “open and shut case” where someone other than the defendant is overheard admitting to being the actual driver? That created “reasonable doubt” which is the bedrock of our criminal justice system. This is an awful outcome for the victim’s family but unless the state can prove who was driving, nobody can be punished.


Elegant-Ad3236

Huh? The mother was on the phone with THE DRIVER who admitted he had been in a wreck and fucked up. That’s direct testimony.


DanforthWhitcomb_

No, it’s a textbook example of hearsay.


Elegant-Ad3236

If it was hearsay the high priced attorney would have objected to it and the judge would not have allowed it. Give it up, man.


Waveshine420

The Defendant's own statements are an exception to hearsay


PerfectNemesis

Well shit who was driving if he "wasn't"?


pumpkinescobar70

DA Gonzalez has a history of hiring inept lawyers. Like lawyers who hide evidence from the defense in a rape case. [Mistrial](https://www.classiccitynews.com/post/prosecutorial-misconduct-leads-to-mistrial-in-oconee-co-rape-case)


kingoflint282

Also drums the competent lawyers out of her office.


pumpkinescobar70

7 of them resigned as soon as she was elected, think they might of known something?


PerfectNemesis

Is she a woke lawyer or some shit


JamesAlbini

Deborah Gonzalez


garciaman

Reading that article made me sick. How did this man walk? Couldn’t they have taken fingerprints off the steering wheel, drivers side car door , anything? Also no cameras anywhere along the route that could show him in the drivers seat? Shocking and sad. Side note- I used to live on Willow St right there by the tracks I’ve seen so many wrecks and accidents there. So f#cking sad.


DanforthWhitcomb_

> Couldn’t they have taken fingerprints off the steering wheel, drivers side car door , anything? They certainly can. Doing so does not prove that he was driving when the accident occurred, which was the primary issue for the state.


garciaman

Good point. Didn’t think it all the way through. Crazy there were no cameras that picked him up.


DanforthWhitcomb_

The cameras downtown are not mounted correctly to see drivers well enough to positively ID them, especially when they’re driving a sedan at night.


SoCoolCD

*sigh*


chicken-friez

hate this outcome and don’t want to take anything away from that but can i just say the ads are too much on this site


BreakfastInBedlam

It seems to me that the state could not prove that he was the driver. What do you all see that I don't? What evidence puts him behind the wheel?


Elegant-Ad3236

Sworn testimony from an eye witness who was the passenger, the mother who testified the accused told her he wrecked the car. and commission and arrest for a crime of a similar nature with a vehicle the previous year as testified to by a police officer. Other than that, not much.


BreakfastInBedlam

Sounds like two people who had a vested interest in putting someone else behind the wheel. That's what I'd claim if I was the defense counsel. Any direct evidence, or testimony from Gresham? Anything other than hearsay?


Elegant-Ad3236

You do not understand the definition for hearsay. There was direct testimony from 2 witnesses.


BreakfastInBedlam

Right. Two witnesses who were not independent, and could have had a reason to create a story that exonerated them at someone else's expense. It would not surprise me to learn that he was driving that day, given the rest of the rumors attached to his name. But conviction in a criminal case needs to be beyond a reasonable doubt. The only evidence that he was driving seems to come from one or both of these witnesses, and it appears that the jury, for whatever reason, did not find the witness testimony compelling. All I'm trying to discern is why they didn't, from someone who was there.


DanforthWhitcomb_

They were both reciting statements made to them by someone else, outside of court and not under oath. That’s textbook hearsay. It also doesn’t even get into the fact that the girlfriend initially said that she was the one driving before later deciding that she was totally out of it due to her chemo and was just along for the ride. Piece of cake for the defense to bring that up, impeach her testimony and remove her credibility. The mother was talking to him on the phone and all that he said was that “I wrecked the car.” Nothing more was said, which likewise makes that statement open to all kinds of attacks that remove her credibility as far as establishing a connection between him driving and the incident occurring.


tableleg7

The passenger that was heard admitting to be the actual driver? The girlfriend was either lying or an unreliable historian … and that was the state’s only witness placing the Defendant behind the wheel. The jury couldn’t lock somebody up with that flimsy of a case.


eragon3130

> The passenger that was heard admitting to be the actual driver? Hmm? You keep saying this but it's not anywhere in the article. Are you getting this from another source or something?


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eragon3130

What you posted literally contradicts what's being said by u/tableleg7: > The girlfriend’s mother testified she received a telephone call that night at her home in Conyers from Gresham and that **in the background she could hear her daughter screaming and crying. She testified that Gresham told her, “I done (expletive) up. I wrecked the car.”** Like what am I missing here?


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detill3

She never admitted to wrecking the car. Where are people getting that from? Gresham was the defendant on the phone. The daughter/passenger was Robinson.


Sinistre_Dei

That's hearsay. Why would the daughter be screaming and crying in the background if it was just a wrecked car a day after? It was only a day after that she saw the news and realized she killed someone... Now the mother trying to protect her caught gives a fraudulent testimony saying Gresham was behind the wheel.


WillingnessOk3081

I think she would be screaming in the background, as any decent person might, if you find out the *next day* that the person you’re with, and the bump you heard in the car while drowsy from chemo meds, it was actually a person being killed. No?


WillingnessOk3081

if it’s hearsay then why is it the basis of reasonable doubt? That doesn’t follow, so far as I understand.


WillingnessOk3081

agreed


WillingnessOk3081

Gresham called the girlfriend’s mother. The mother hears daughter screaming in background. so that’s one thing. I don’t see how the girl screaming about something so traumatic as this is any kind of “proof” that she was driving or even enough to remotely cause reasonable doubt. Then there’s the next sentence about what “she testified“. I took that pronoun “she” to refer to the mother saying that “she” testified that the man, Gresham, said that he wrecked the car (and killed somebody). I also agree that there should be video evidence somewhere with all the CC downtown showing a glimpse of who was driving.


DanforthWhitcomb_

The downtown cameras are all within the core of downtown, making them worthless as far as proving who was driving when the wreck occurred, which is all that matters. It was also well after dark, which means that for cameras mounted ~10’ (or more) off the ground (as they are downtown) you are not going to be able to see who was driving.


against_the_currents

“I fucked up. I wrecked the car.” The car that was driven was his girlfriends aunts. He was with the girlfriend driving her home at the time of the accident. She confirmed that she heard the thud. It literally goes on, that’s just what’s in this article! Their defense rested on the idea that the vehicle was stolen and then crashed. The report was done after the accident.


JamesAlbini

The state could prove it, but Deborah Gonzalez.


Libby_Grace

What we see is a pattern of incompetence in our prosecutor’s office, further hindered by a leader who has been quite outspoken with regard to her lack of desire to prosecute criminals, particularly those who have had a “hard life”.


Dead-Centurion

Fucking Money!!!!! That's how.


RipFlair

Swing and a miss jury


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tableleg7

You: “Yeah, screw that lawyer for representing a defendant that is guaranteed the right to counsel by the Constitution. These damn constitutional rights are getting in the way of my need to feel vengeance. Let’s harass a public servant so I can feel better!”


dawgtown22

Why do you want people to harass an attorney just doing their job? It’s the state’s responsibly to prove their case.


kielsucks

Why? Accountability. Downvote all you want, you’re not hurting my feelings. The defense attorney is complicit in helping this piece of shit walk free.


BidnessBoy

Gideon v Wainwright exists and guarantees an attorney to the accused in criminal cases.


kielsucks

Woah really?


JST_KRZY

The defense attorney was appointed *pro bono* by the state. He literally had no choice in defending Gresham. I live in Oglethorpe and can tell you that Gresham is constantly in our police blotter for a myriad of driving and drug-related offenses. It is almost unbelievable they cannot get charges to stick, especially with the plethora of security cameras and other recording devices in this day and age. But seriously, don’t bag on the attorney for doing their job. Especially a job they were at the behest of the state to perform.


detill3

This was not pro bono


Sweaty_fourSports

What the ACTUAL FUCK??