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danisaccountant

CMV: The biggest scam perpetuated on humanity is that the divided road, College Station, has a 35 mph limit when Research Dr is a two-laner and 45 mph.


mister_brown

The only part of College Station that I think *should* have a 35mph limit is around that curve near the Kroger end of it. There's been some bad wrecks there, even with the 35mph limit in place. But otherwise, yeah, has never made sense to me why College Station is mostly 35mph (and the 45mph section is in the busier part of the street, near all the UGA stuff!)


Bluedreamreaper

I think it’s because there is residential housing on that street. But I agree 35 feels low.


DanforthWhitcomb_

It’s because College Station has curbs plus the residential area at the top of the hill.


danisaccountant

It’s 45 between E Campus/the loop and there’re curbs. Residential is just as close on East Campus/Five Points.


_TRA_uga

I'd argue that for-profit healthcare is actually the biggest, but I kinda feel ya. Though, driving on the inside lane around that big curve nearer to the vet school today, I winced as a pickup truck passed me going the opposite way. Genuinely felt like mere inches separated us Also, heard about a guy who died years ago right there between Research and where the cops always sit, across the river. Jeep turned over, he came out, and it crushed him. And it took a while, not instant. Details are fuzzy... Lots of things went wrong, but one factor was speed, I iirc


DanforthWhitcomb_

I remember when that happened (had friends that knew him): [R&B article] (https://www.redandblack.com/news/university-student-dies-in-car-accident/article_64214597-ef54-5a6a-a686-eca15a2e6652.html)


EatShitLeftWing

It used to be 45! (at least that segment anyway) They should raise it back. Also Timothy Rd (which was changed more recently).


LlewellynSinclair

Wife got her lone speeding ticket (well warning) there right after they changed it. Was going through at 50mph the first day out alone with our newborn son. They switched it between when my son was born and that day (so early/mid April 2014). Thankfully the screaming 2 week old baby in the back (and my dad’s military service, we have USAA insurance) got her off with the warning. But yeah, that stretch at 35 is absurd. We’ve since moved from Athens, but I always had a hard time driving it.


shesacoonhound

College station between the loop and Whitehall road is less than two miles so increasing your speed from 35mph to 45 mph saves you less than a minute. There are lots of small streets people have to turn onto to get home and there's no turn lanes for many of them meaning they have to slow down or stop in traffic to make the turn. It's much safer if traffic is going 35.


danisaccountant

Everything you said is completely logical and reasonable, but the road FEELS like it should be 45 which always causes me to speed. Especially between the loop and Research. After that it feels like a 35 mph road.


JenniferG714

Yes it did! They lowered the speed limit when they redid the bridges. I kept thinking they would raise it again when completed but it stand 35. I have seen more cops there the last couple of days than I have in years.


athensugadawg

Pretty much a given that they will be on the curve on College Station just after the bridge. Priorities, or lack of.


co00420

Yeah. I always instinctively slow down after the Research Dr. Light when I’m headed towards campus because they sit there so often. But I can’t say I’ve ever seen 6 motorcycle cops and a squad car hanging out up there before.


detill3

Not that it matters much, but it was 4 motorcycles.


co00420

Yeah. Dude I’m front of me slammed on his brakes as we went by. So I was trying not to die. I thought I counted 5 on the hill and 1 with someone pulled over. But 🤷🏼‍♂️


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FriendshipStraight68

100 more citations and my wife gets a toaster oven.


DanforthWhitcomb_

My, my, my. Another one with no knowledge as to how speeding fines work. Quotas are illegal in Georgia (enforced by voiding the tickets, refunding the fines and the detection device permit for the offending agency getting revoked for a minimum of 12 months), as well as the 35% rule…..oh, and ACC no longer offers a pension. It’s all deferred comp and IRA plans.


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DanforthWhitcomb_

> Danforth, man, I hate to ask this cause you're such a solid poster, but...are you a cop??? No. I’m just someone tried of all of the whining from spoiled Georgia residents who think that any speed enforcement whatsoever is a speed trap and it must be because ticket quotas are a thing. > I understand that quotas are illegal but it sure doesn't seem to stop y'all from trying. That story doesn’t describe anything even remotely resembling a ticket quota system. > I was unaware that ACC no longer offers a pension, but the Georgia Sheriff's Association sure does. IIRC the county commission wanted to lower the marijuana possession fine to $1 but had to keep it at $35 partially due to the fact that there are some guaranteed amounts from each citation that are paid to the sheriffs' pension fund. That is a laughably obvious conflict of interest - and even if the ACC sheriff's office doesn't do traffic enforcement, other offices in the surrounding counties absolutely do. Do you even understand *who* that pension applies to? It applies to any elected sheriff (the sheriff alone, not deputies) who has served at least 4 years (cumulative), has reached age 55 and is no longer sheriff. FYI, there are 159 sheriffs in the state of Georgia. The $35 being due to that fund is not true, as the max levy on any legal action is $2. There are a number of surcharges that are added (most of which go straight to the judicial system), of which it is only one.


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DanforthWhitcomb_

> Cops working for APD have to write X amount of tickets or their bosses raise hell and/or they get punished by their superiors that have set target arrest/citation metrics. Those officers receive more credit for writing tickets than they do responding to 911 calls. You can call it "proactive enforcement" or whatever you want...that's a quota. So you didn’t actually read the article nor do you understand how quotas work. Got it. > I do, and that has zero relevance as to the fact that it's a massive conflict of interest. Who do you think is pushing the deputies to write the tickets? Do you even understand how any of that funding side works? $2 from each ticket doesn’t present a conflict, mainly because of the 35% rule that those Sheriffs are forced to abide by. Additionally, if you think that’s a conflict then don’t ever look at how courts (or the government as a whole) is funded.


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DanforthWhitcomb_

Plot twist: you can’t fathom someone having a different opinion from you and so you have to resort to ascribing motives with no evidence to support them.


warnelldawg

Unpopular opinion: we need more speed enforcement on city and urban roads. People need to slow down, especially after Covid. Pedestrian deaths are at an all time high. Now, it’s different story for median divided and access limited highways. Fudge the pigs on those.


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I hate cops but I agree with you.


Tech_Philosophy

>Unpopular opinion: we need more speed enforcement on city and urban roads. What we need is a rebuilt drivers ed program or maybe testing for lead poisoning. Speeding isn't the problem here, it's that everyone drives like drunk, angry monkeys. Traffic is crazier (i.e. drivers making more insane choices) here than Los Angeles or Beijing most days. I don't know how to convince people that it isn't like this anywhere else other than to say go see.


DrStrangeloveGA

I have lived in multiple states and traveled the world. I have never seen such shitty driving as I have seen in Athens, GA.


PussyCyclone

Go to Hilton Head/Bluffton, SC, and if you've been but not recently, go again because its much worse than it was even just pre-COVID! That traffic is the perfect storm of idiot college kids, blind retirees who shouldn't even be driving, tourists who are unfamiliar with the roads, and pissed off locals zooming around the three other categories. The volume of traffic isn't even the problem, sometimes it's packed but not crazy...it's that the drivers there just don't make logical choices AT ALL so there's NO way to anticipate what kind of crazy will be on the road that day! I'm relaxed as fuck driving in Athens compared to HHI/Bluffton! The idiots here are plenty and they suck, but it's much more manageable IMO.


FriendshipStraight68

The only problem with speeding is the amount of energy a heavy object possess at speed. When that object meets another, bad things are going to happen.


spy0011

100% agree. And it’s absurd that there’s any section of a 4 lane divided highway that is 35 mph.


FriendshipStraight68

Keep it under 83 on the loop and you won’t have any problems.


RistraDax

I'll agree but only if going too slow is included. Too many people going 50 mph or less on the loop.


nerdwit

My biggest complaint is why do the cops only speed trap on College Station when students are gone? Nothing against students, I'd just like to see consistent traffic enforcement instead of feeling like they're singling out full-time residents.


FriendshipStraight68

School is in.


nerdwit

Technically yes. A lot of folks already have taken off once they're done with exams or what-not. Maybe I should say around the student breaks?


DanforthWhitcomb_

If you’re getting caught speeding there you probably need to have your license revoked due to a lack of basic intelligence. People in Georgia are also spoiled beyond belief as far as speed enforcement and really do need to learn what a speed trap actually is (Hint: a road with a constant and clearly posted speed limit is not one). Edit: LOL at people who cannot figure out that when the cops sit in the exact same place *for over 25 years* it isn’t a speed trap, and that anyone who gets caught is a moron.


BreakfastInBedlam

> a road with a constant and clearly posted speed limit ...and given a 10mph cushion when using radar. If you get a ticket there, you are flying. But of course they are tracking you as you come down the hill from the curve to the river. It's less that the maximum slope, and I *assume* they have a permit to run radar there...


anti150

THANK YOU


euphgod

There was also a speed trap on Milledge near Baxter street. 3 cops on bikes.


FriendshipStraight68

That’s a distracted driving trap.


FriendshipStraight68

Keep it under 55 and you probably won’t meet one of them.


EarthDwellr

If you’re pushing 50 you’re probably getting pulled over in a 35


FriendshipStraight68

The motor cops on Milledge told me 20 over is a guaranteed stop. 15-19 over, depends on the cop. 11-14 over, they aren’t even watching. 10 or less and they can’t stop with speed detection devices.


EarthDwellr

My cousin got pulled over the other day on Barnett shoals doing 60 in the 45 which was pretty lame


BreakfastInBedlam

There's no place on Barnett Shoals where the speed limit is 45.


EarthDwellr

My bad officer, they were doing 55 in a 40.


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Why tf are you going 55 in a 35


FriendshipStraight68

I guess my not very apparent point of my original comment was that the cops aren’t pulling people over for minor speeding. The motor cops are only focusing on unreasonable speeds.


FriendshipStraight68

I’m not…. But people do that and faster everyday on College Station.


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