My cousin was electrocuted and lost both his thumbs and several fingers. I wonder how close this is to production ready.
He’d be thrilled to have a single thumb right now.
FYI peoples have design and instructions to build it yourself with a 3d printer - for free.
And if you loose a finger as well., I won't even be surprised for US folk if it is cheaper to buy a 3d printer and do it yourself. (I mean, a 300$ resin printer or 3d printer + 20-30$ of "filament" is cheap AF. You won't have to pay for employees time and stupid greedy fee)
Warning: resin printers print *** nice details, unfortunately it is also toxic (use glove! Some ventilation! And need to be cured (by sun or UV lamp (warning dangerous for your eye :p))
Most of these seem to be self-made, or made with the help of a single technical person.
Your cousin just needs to hit up his nerdy friend with a 3D printer, apparently.
Most of us with 3d printers LOVE to help friends with stuff like this. For larger prints I ask for material cost only, or recommend they find a baller filament (glow in the dark, marble, wood, color changing, etc) and ask they buy what they want and I'll print.
Oh nice, maybe he can get some one day. It's already been a couple years, but will probably take a while since he lives in rural Mississippi with no health insurance.
I apologize for doubling down on being pedantic. Although your etymology is correct, electrocute is to kill or injure by electricity. Therefore their usage was correct.
Reminds me of an interview I once read with an amputee who’d been gifted a prosthetic hand that cost tens of thousands of dollars. The prosthetic was made to be as much like a human hand as possible, with tiny motors inside that could be used to mimic any kind of pose and grip.
She used it for a few weeks before going back to her old system of several different prosthetics she could swap out. She found it more efficient to use assistive devices that, while cruder than the robot hand, were specific to each task she was attempting to do.
I watched a video with interviews of some amputees. It featured Angel Giuffria. I can't remember if she was the one saying this or if it was another interviewee, but she basically said the best use of a prosthetic was for socializing, as it made gestures look more natural and smoothed over the sometimes jarring reaction people have to the unexpectedly ending limb.
I've pondered whether it's possible to attach a prehensile tail to the human coccyx, link it to the nerves in some way to make it fully functional.
Some time ago there was this: https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/21/3367130/neurowear-shippo-tail-brain-wave-hands-on
a few years ago i was thinking about what if mecha hand got really good would i be tempted to chop off one hand and replace it.
then a few days later it dawned on me that i can just have 3-4 arms instead of just 2.
>a few years ago i was thinking about what if mecha hand got really good would i be tempted to chop off one hand and replace it.
I am hoping that biomechanical stuff really takes off before my natural body starts to give up. Cancer and heart failure are the leading causes of natural death so it would be nice to have "cures" for both.
[Crimson Typhoon?](https://www.deviantart.com/geminidragon05/art/Crimson-Typhoon-Thundercloud-Formation-405112843)
Full vid clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSTnEpW7Q0&list=LL&index=67
Oh... oh man, buddy... let's sit down for a minute and talk. Are you looking around at everybody's hands? See how they have two thumbs? And here your hands are and only one thumb. You're... you're missing a thumb, man. Most people have two. It's pretty normal, actually. It's not really a big deal, but I feel like you should know. I hear they make prosthetics with spikes and stuff now, so it could really be more of an upgrade. /s
It was a joke we did with our amputee friend, but okay...
Does angrily typing away on the internet make you feel good or something? That's really not good for your heart rate and I'm sure you can do more constructive things
We need to figure out how to integrate these into our current nervous system, the apparent lack of connections to existing nerves in amputees is ridiculous, we should be able to hook prosthetics in that move like the original and then some
what we really need right now is a transhumanist billionaire
If you figure out a non degrading, non-scar or plaque generating nerve to computer interface. And the decoding systematics to feed back into nerves. You’ll definitely win a Nobel or some other big prize.
The body hates having foreign stuff stuck in it.
Definitely, but we aren’t super far off, things like cochlear implants and the many many things we’ve done for the heart are the first steps, definitely not the direct building blocks, but not unrelated
Look at this diagram: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_of_Corti
That’s the cochlea in cross section. Easiest way to think about it is that the cochlea is a bundle of 3 hollow tubes. The nerve runs through one tube and the cochlear implant is placed in a different tube (the scala tympani).
Rather, we should just fund medical research and enact universal healthcare, and give the billionaires some free time to pay and file their full taxes.
In order to get true advancements you need someone who is incredibly rich and incredibly interested
both of those are great, but even if we did those right now we’d still be looking at the same tech for decades at our rate of advancement, it takes one (1) billionaire who wants a robo arm to get nerve mapping going
Billionaires are leeches and thieves and they don’t get to just decide when society advances.
Pretty sure a couple of random dudes who fixed bikes made the airplane, and nasa invented a ton of “true advancements” using our tax dollars, without some dumb billionaire turning the rocket into a penis analogue.
We don’t need to wait for a thieving boss to decide to help so they can commodify their premium limbs to those worthy, we extract the help from them in the form of owed taxes, and move society forward together.
And now a trashy dumbass billionaire who’s obsessed with mars one upped nasa through funding his own rocket company, we both clearly don’t like it, but things don’t get done fast unless those with lots of money want them to, i mean fuck it required two dictators who are two of the worst people in history to get us to the moon (albeit indirectly from the first and competition with the second)
Yea he didn’t fund it, he bought it, and then we subsidized it as tax payers.
They didn’t one up NASA, who has been underfunded for decades, and has landed humans on the moon, they outspent them.
Collecting taxes which are owed anyway, and funding important programs is a good way to be one of those with “lots of money” and can get things done fast.
The dictators didn’t get us to the moon, funding NASA and recruiting scientists and engineers through funding got us to the moon.
I vibe with your point, but the tax breaks that companies like spacex/tesla and Amazon get are specifically to fund research, that's how they get the tax breaks.
Buying something is funding it, he then used his money to get that taxpayer money
the end result is what matters here, NASA should have way more control over their operations and much more funding but that’s not how it is sadly, and if we did prosthetics the same way the shuttle program went we’d still be stuck on hooks
anything government funded has so much excess bureaucracy that it’ll never be fast, best we can hope for is the lowest level being fast so the common person doesn’t experience delays on current stuff, but R&D is only going to go fast if there’s some big incentive, and again, without someone powerful or some nutcase cutting off thousands of arms overnight, the incentive won’t be there
Von Braun, critical to the apollo program, would never have been hired if not for his work on the V2 rocket, and NASA would never have been funded enough for the apollo program if not for the soviets and the space race
kiddo you’re living in a fantasy world, social programs are *amazing* for stuff that’s here and now, but they don’t push development without *immense* pressure
Buying is not funding it.
He gave money to people no longer associated with it (they took the money with them) in exchange for ownership of the company. No additional funds were injected into the company by the transaction, only the person at the top of the chain changed.
Almost every single major tech advancement in our lifetimes came from government funding and government agencies. You're delusional if you actually believe this shit.
The first “modern” computers were designed to decipher nazi codes, the internet was built for military and espionage purposes (which is a collective of rich folks when you break it down), pretty much everything coming out of the space race can be pinned on american oligarchs and soviet dictators, air conditioning was created to de-humidify factories, and that’s just a few, give me specifics and i can identify them easier rather than trying to think of random things
> nazi codes
Government program
> internet
Government program
> space race
I don’t get it, how can you be this dumb? These are all points *against* rich people being the driving force behind advancement instead of government initiatives funded by taxes.
Government program
>which is a collective of rich folks when you break it down
Hahahahaahahahahah "even when it was the government, I *knew* it was our benevolent rich overlords" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wish we didn’t but that’s how the world goes, if you don’t have someone with lots of money or power pushing something, and most importantly funding it, it crawls at a snails pace, we didn’t get to the moon without one dictator pushing for long range ballistic missiles and one trying to use space exploration for propaganda
I also wonder how close we are to custom making new genitals for pleasure increasing.
Like when will someone make a hyper sensitive plumbus out of someone’s junk?
_”She hopes that one day the thumb (and devices like it) might help everyone from factory workers to surgeons perform tasks more efficiently, with less strain on their own bodies.”_
Yes, because I want to _so badly_ augment my anatomy for the profit of a company. Gtfo.
It seems like every time I see a 'cool prosthetic' it's something the person has created at home, or with the help of a university professor.
I just find it really interesting that, of all things, it's prosthetics that are home made more than anything else I see. 3D printing, along with the need from something completely custom, seems to be creating a culture of DIY for replacing your own limbs.
It's very strange if you think about it.
Get a pop socket- holding your phone that way causes actual vascular and neurological changes to your pinky and people are starting to need hand surgery for ut
My cousin was electrocuted and lost both his thumbs and several fingers. I wonder how close this is to production ready. He’d be thrilled to have a single thumb right now.
*cousin gets an email* "You are eligible for our half thumb program."
Doctors give this one simple tool three thumbs up!
Sorry, we’re fresh out of thumbs. How about a Thor Ragnorok spike?
But can I have the mad max edition
Buy the first thumb get the second thumb free?
"Who's got no thumbs and 7 thumbs? THIS guy. "
FYI peoples have design and instructions to build it yourself with a 3d printer - for free. And if you loose a finger as well., I won't even be surprised for US folk if it is cheaper to buy a 3d printer and do it yourself. (I mean, a 300$ resin printer or 3d printer + 20-30$ of "filament" is cheap AF. You won't have to pay for employees time and stupid greedy fee) Warning: resin printers print *** nice details, unfortunately it is also toxic (use glove! Some ventilation! And need to be cured (by sun or UV lamp (warning dangerous for your eye :p))
Most of these seem to be self-made, or made with the help of a single technical person. Your cousin just needs to hit up his nerdy friend with a 3D printer, apparently.
Most of us with 3d printers LOVE to help friends with stuff like this. For larger prints I ask for material cost only, or recommend they find a baller filament (glow in the dark, marble, wood, color changing, etc) and ask they buy what they want and I'll print.
Thumb prosthetics already exist. No need to wait for this invention.
Oh nice, maybe he can get some one day. It's already been a couple years, but will probably take a while since he lives in rural Mississippi with no health insurance.
I think I first saw it a year ago sometime. This isn’t brand new. Edit: [Paper](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34043536/) published in 2021
Who’s got got two thumbs and the world at their fingertips? Not this guy’s cousin…
Tell him to check out the i-Digit prosthetic
Sorry for being a bit pedantic, but "electrocuted" means "killed by electricity". It's a combo of "electric" and "execute".
I apologize for doubling down on being pedantic. Although your etymology is correct, electrocute is to kill or injure by electricity. Therefore their usage was correct.
What would be the correct verb to use in this case?
Shocked is the correct verb
Technically "electrified", but that doesn't sound quite right to me, so I say "electric shocked"
Electrocute is just a fun word. For killed by electric shock, you can specify "heart attack" or "lightly cooked/extra rare."
So dumb that people mess this up every day all the damn time
If he was electrocuted your brother would have died. If he didn’t die he was shocked
He'd probably give it two thumbs up if he could
Reminds me of an interview I once read with an amputee who’d been gifted a prosthetic hand that cost tens of thousands of dollars. The prosthetic was made to be as much like a human hand as possible, with tiny motors inside that could be used to mimic any kind of pose and grip. She used it for a few weeks before going back to her old system of several different prosthetics she could swap out. She found it more efficient to use assistive devices that, while cruder than the robot hand, were specific to each task she was attempting to do.
It was also a hassle to reconfigure. Easier to just switch out.
I'll stand by the fact that John Silver's (Treasure Planet) arm/hand is one of the coolest and most versatile prosthetics I've ever seen.
Omg Johnny silverhand
Is he related to Long John Silver?
Really hope I never lose an arm now, my name isn't John.
Anyone want to try our new Breakfast Bass? $1.99?
Shinobi prosthetics
Yes, this one has firecrackers in it for when I need to scare horses and ghost warriors. And this one has a spear for immortal demon centipedes.
Which hand was it?
The left I think.
Thank you for responding! But I meant the name / brand of the hand. Like BeBionic or iLimb. Would you happen to know?
:(
Honestly can’t remember. Been years since I read it and can on recall the general idea of the article.
Go-go-gadget Claw!
I remember back in the early 60’s an aunt who lost a hand in a bus accident had a variety of hands, including one specifically for knitting!
It’s also interesting that to many people who lost a hand or a leg, a more robotic prosthetic is more agreeable than a lifelike one.
Just going to leave this here: https://youtube.com/shorts/pbm-aIrhcRo?feature=share
I watched a video with interviews of some amputees. It featured Angel Giuffria. I can't remember if she was the one saying this or if it was another interviewee, but she basically said the best use of a prosthetic was for socializing, as it made gestures look more natural and smoothed over the sometimes jarring reaction people have to the unexpectedly ending limb.
Wait a minute, where are the second thumbs?
I have one on each of my 2 hands. I believe the third one would be the plastic one.
But what about a fourth thumb? Why stop there. I could make good use of a third arm!
Or a prehensile tail!
I grew out of my collection of plush monkeys, but I never grew out of wanting a prehensile tail. Oh and hands for feet. And a tree house lol
Show me your coccyx
I've pondered whether it's possible to attach a prehensile tail to the human coccyx, link it to the nerves in some way to make it fully functional. Some time ago there was this: https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/21/3367130/neurowear-shippo-tail-brain-wave-hands-on
a few years ago i was thinking about what if mecha hand got really good would i be tempted to chop off one hand and replace it. then a few days later it dawned on me that i can just have 3-4 arms instead of just 2.
>a few years ago i was thinking about what if mecha hand got really good would i be tempted to chop off one hand and replace it. I am hoping that biomechanical stuff really takes off before my natural body starts to give up. Cancer and heart failure are the leading causes of natural death so it would be nice to have "cures" for both.
...watch your Essence-lvl!
Specialist limbs with tools would be useful, like Inspector Gadget.
[Crimson Typhoon?](https://www.deviantart.com/geminidragon05/art/Crimson-Typhoon-Thundercloud-Formation-405112843) Full vid clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSTnEpW7Q0&list=LL&index=67
We don't have the technology yet...
I think we're close https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200430110321.htm
It’s a RIGHT hand
The plastic one
Oh... oh man, buddy... let's sit down for a minute and talk. Are you looking around at everybody's hands? See how they have two thumbs? And here your hands are and only one thumb. You're... you're missing a thumb, man. Most people have two. It's pretty normal, actually. It's not really a big deal, but I feel like you should know. I hear they make prosthetics with spikes and stuff now, so it could really be more of an upgrade. /s
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It was a joke we did with our amputee friend, but okay... Does angrily typing away on the internet make you feel good or something? That's really not good for your heart rate and I'm sure you can do more constructive things
Haha I would’ve thought the same about you! I’m fine, thanks for the concern though. I simply failed to see the joke.
Fair enough. I'll add the "/s" lol. Safe internet travels
To you as well. P.S. I’m on mobile, so *no* kind of typing makes me feel good lol
Big hands and a Samsung over here. My autocorrect stays busy for sure
On Roger Eibert’s corpse.
I wondered that too, I guess they include the thumb on the other hand?
One in the butt I imagine
On your second hand?
We have *one* thumb, yes, but what about *second* thumb?
Where are the STL files?!
One step closer to Cyberpunk Edgerunners
We need to figure out how to integrate these into our current nervous system, the apparent lack of connections to existing nerves in amputees is ridiculous, we should be able to hook prosthetics in that move like the original and then some what we really need right now is a transhumanist billionaire
If you figure out a non degrading, non-scar or plaque generating nerve to computer interface. And the decoding systematics to feed back into nerves. You’ll definitely win a Nobel or some other big prize. The body hates having foreign stuff stuck in it.
Definitely, but we aren’t super far off, things like cochlear implants and the many many things we’ve done for the heart are the first steps, definitely not the direct building blocks, but not unrelated
Do Cochlear feed straight to the nerve? Or do they interface with the tissue connected to the nerve?
seems like nerve? i can’t tell exactly, everywhere i look it is designed for the extreme laymen
Look at this diagram: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_of_Corti That’s the cochlea in cross section. Easiest way to think about it is that the cochlea is a bundle of 3 hollow tubes. The nerve runs through one tube and the cochlear implant is placed in a different tube (the scala tympani).
Rather, we should just fund medical research and enact universal healthcare, and give the billionaires some free time to pay and file their full taxes.
In order to get true advancements you need someone who is incredibly rich and incredibly interested both of those are great, but even if we did those right now we’d still be looking at the same tech for decades at our rate of advancement, it takes one (1) billionaire who wants a robo arm to get nerve mapping going
Billionaires are leeches and thieves and they don’t get to just decide when society advances. Pretty sure a couple of random dudes who fixed bikes made the airplane, and nasa invented a ton of “true advancements” using our tax dollars, without some dumb billionaire turning the rocket into a penis analogue. We don’t need to wait for a thieving boss to decide to help so they can commodify their premium limbs to those worthy, we extract the help from them in the form of owed taxes, and move society forward together.
And now a trashy dumbass billionaire who’s obsessed with mars one upped nasa through funding his own rocket company, we both clearly don’t like it, but things don’t get done fast unless those with lots of money want them to, i mean fuck it required two dictators who are two of the worst people in history to get us to the moon (albeit indirectly from the first and competition with the second)
Yea he didn’t fund it, he bought it, and then we subsidized it as tax payers. They didn’t one up NASA, who has been underfunded for decades, and has landed humans on the moon, they outspent them. Collecting taxes which are owed anyway, and funding important programs is a good way to be one of those with “lots of money” and can get things done fast. The dictators didn’t get us to the moon, funding NASA and recruiting scientists and engineers through funding got us to the moon.
I vibe with your point, but the tax breaks that companies like spacex/tesla and Amazon get are specifically to fund research, that's how they get the tax breaks.
Buying something is funding it, he then used his money to get that taxpayer money the end result is what matters here, NASA should have way more control over their operations and much more funding but that’s not how it is sadly, and if we did prosthetics the same way the shuttle program went we’d still be stuck on hooks anything government funded has so much excess bureaucracy that it’ll never be fast, best we can hope for is the lowest level being fast so the common person doesn’t experience delays on current stuff, but R&D is only going to go fast if there’s some big incentive, and again, without someone powerful or some nutcase cutting off thousands of arms overnight, the incentive won’t be there Von Braun, critical to the apollo program, would never have been hired if not for his work on the V2 rocket, and NASA would never have been funded enough for the apollo program if not for the soviets and the space race kiddo you’re living in a fantasy world, social programs are *amazing* for stuff that’s here and now, but they don’t push development without *immense* pressure
No bruh
Buying is not funding it. He gave money to people no longer associated with it (they took the money with them) in exchange for ownership of the company. No additional funds were injected into the company by the transaction, only the person at the top of the chain changed.
>he then used his money to get that taxpayer money What a funny little sentence
That’s how lobbying for government contracts works
Okay? Still a funny little sentence, though apparently fairly normal for somewhere utterly corrupt like America lol
Almost every single major tech advancement in our lifetimes came from government funding and government agencies. You're delusional if you actually believe this shit.
Name one that wasn’t either pushed by or done in reaction to someone with either great wealth or great power and not a great person
Name one that has.
The first “modern” computers were designed to decipher nazi codes, the internet was built for military and espionage purposes (which is a collective of rich folks when you break it down), pretty much everything coming out of the space race can be pinned on american oligarchs and soviet dictators, air conditioning was created to de-humidify factories, and that’s just a few, give me specifics and i can identify them easier rather than trying to think of random things
> nazi codes Government program > internet Government program > space race I don’t get it, how can you be this dumb? These are all points *against* rich people being the driving force behind advancement instead of government initiatives funded by taxes. Government program
> done in reaction to i mean if you want some rich or powerful person to start cutting peoples limbs off instead go for it
All of those you listed were specifically done by the government and *not* rich people.
In reaction to rich and powerful also since when is AC a government program?
>which is a collective of rich folks when you break it down Hahahahaahahahahah "even when it was the government, I *knew* it was our benevolent rich overlords" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I see you have never heard of the military industrial complex
What the hell kinda precursor is that? No we don’t need any billionaires
Wish we didn’t but that’s how the world goes, if you don’t have someone with lots of money or power pushing something, and most importantly funding it, it crawls at a snails pace, we didn’t get to the moon without one dictator pushing for long range ballistic missiles and one trying to use space exploration for propaganda
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We need to cut off his arm, that’ll get shit going real quick
I also wonder how close we are to custom making new genitals for pleasure increasing. Like when will someone make a hyper sensitive plumbus out of someone’s junk?
David Sarif, where are you in our time of need
Third thumbs? No thanks. I don’t want my corporate overlords in Night City make me do more work because I’ve got more digits
*third* thumbs?
well, you already have two, so +1 = 3
I’ve always felt that I had an opposable digit missing on each of my feet. Now I can finally be complete!
So two thunbs up would be a medicore review then?
AI really wants us to have more than 5 fingers per hand huh
Doctor Octopus, is that you?
I’d call that a mild success
TRANSHUMANISM
Who has one hand and two thumbs? This guy!
Transhumanism here we come. Can't wait to get my Sandevistan installed.
FYI it’s “break the mould”
Broken moldy mould
I thought it said prostitutes at first and thought that's some kinky stuff
Subreddit name cheeks out
This is awesome too, but I definitely read that as "prostitutes" at first and I was here for it
What if I wanted to add thumbs to my feet?
What if I wanted to add thumbs other places than hands and feet?
Read "prostitutes" in the title, was very confused. "What kind of kink is this?"
Oh just you wait choom
Seriously dudes, we’re well on our way to a cyberpunk dystopia.
At first I read this as prostitutes not prosthetics and was like “oh my”
So... cosmetics for your prosthetics?
_”She hopes that one day the thumb (and devices like it) might help everyone from factory workers to surgeons perform tasks more efficiently, with less strain on their own bodies.”_ Yes, because I want to _so badly_ augment my anatomy for the profit of a company. Gtfo.
It'd be nice to make surgeons less stressed.
It would be nice to not be stressed at the surgeons knowing the surgeons aren’t stressed.
Read the title as "Prostates" initially. Decidedly less interesting as someone with a "Thor" skin on their prostate.
Better make a new mould quick as these will be quite useful
I have always thought this but someday the special Olympics will have the better athletes as prosthetics go from replace to enhance.
Anyone have any details on the sensors used in the shoes?
It seems like every time I see a 'cool prosthetic' it's something the person has created at home, or with the help of a university professor. I just find it really interesting that, of all things, it's prosthetics that are home made more than anything else I see. 3D printing, along with the need from something completely custom, seems to be creating a culture of DIY for replacing your own limbs. It's very strange if you think about it.
Additionally, health care problems
I’m missing an index finger can I have one
I would totally use to prop my phone on instead of my pinky which is starting to hurt
Get a pop socket- holding your phone that way causes actual vascular and neurological changes to your pinky and people are starting to need hand surgery for ut
Literally 0 all star jokes in the comments? Come on guys.
My dreams of winning in TypeRacer have never felt so close.
Trying to mimic real human is too hard and usually gets you in the uncanny valley. Creating fantasy arms helps with inclusion.
I've always wondered how double opposable thumbs would work.