Rune is in an interesting position in that almost half of his current ranking points (1,550 out of 3,325) are all from a single month: October, 2022. He won Paris (1,000 points) and Stockholm (250 points) and made the final of Basel (300 points).
The upside is that he's got a lot of opportunities to win points until then, especially in Masters 1000s (other than Paris, his best results last year were three 2nd round appearances), so he's got a good shot at making it into the top 5 over the coming months.
The downside is that it's a lot of points to have packed into one month, especially at the end of the season where injuries get more likely. So far he's only 17th in the race this year, so he'll be hoping for a big result soon if he wants to keep his current ranking past October.
Those points are almost as much as a Slam. It’ll be hard to defend them all. If he loses a large portion of his points he’ll likely drop at least 5 places, so he needs to be top 5 in October to have a good chance of staying top 10 at the end of the year.
I'd say top 15. He still has some maturing to do both physically and mentally.
Barring injury, he should have the opportunity to produce some consistent results.
He is an ass for sure but he is one of those guys who seems to find ways to lose matches. My sense watching him is that if players can handle his power he is very vulnerable …
I dont think he is patient enough.
> I worry though he becomes like Zverev
Zverev's spent most of the last 4-5 years in the top 5. Prior to the 2022 injury, he hadn't dropped out of the top 7 in 4 years.
If Rune becomes like Zverev, it is very unlikely he drops out of the top 20. Zverev missed most of last season and still hasn't dropped below 20.
Yeah makes money but Zverev is a disappointment. He was supposed to be a champion. But he doesnt have the mentality. That covid thing to me was very illustrative of him I think - show but short on substance
Rune has a great chance of being in the top 5.
my personal top 5 based on performance or 2023 potential:
Alcaraz
Sinner
Rune
Djoko
Medvedevev
(not in particular order)
Top 5 probably. Maybe a slam semi, a masters final or another masters title. Should be making a few finals at 250s and 500s and winning a couple as well.
Top 5 seems a little high.
Djokovic, Alcaraz, Meddy, and Tsitsipas leave one spot assuming no injuries or whatever (which also applies to Rune).
He’s good enough to finish that high, but it’s a BIG ask.
I get so tired by the jaaa thing. This sub apparently cannot get past it. Does not stimulate a serious discussion.
I think this sub constantly underestimates him. He has had a tendency to be a little streaky. Especially last year. But his top level is insane.
In 2023 he has not had the big results yet. But I feel there is a good chance he will get some finals and maybe trophies. In that case he has a good chance to keep in the top 10. I personally think he will end higher than his current 8th.
I don’t think there is any top 10 player he has ever faced he has a negative H2H with. He can beat them all. I don’t think that can be said of many players. I also see signs he is gaining consistency. His biggest issue is the cramps and stamina. I know they are focusing hard on it. It cost him Acapulco (though conditions were extreme mid night). It must be fixable.
Edit: He has a negative H2H with Ruud but mostly from meeting him early in the career. Rune will likely be favourite now.
Thank you.
I am not offended. Just overly tired of it. It is just in this sub which I think has a lot of interesting discussions but also something else that does not really appeal to me. Something very superficial with overly focus on players looks and lazy jokes.
Djokovic, Alcaraz, Tsitsipas, and Meddy all much more than likely than not finish ahead of him.
Maybe Nadal depending on both how strong he comes back and how much he plays.
Maybe Zverev depending on when (probably not if but maybe) he gets back into form.
After that 🤷♂️
The rankings are a hot mess between 5 and 14 now (pretending Ruud and Meddy are flipped as well as Zverev and Tiafoe for convenience).
??
For sure.
Maybe Sinner makes another jump this year, but even if he doesn’t he’s still very good and got more points in the bank already.
And Rublev brings it year round like few other players outside the very top.
Tsitsipas seems slowing down a lot. Nadal with clay season about to start seems a lock for top4 anyway. Sinner most of all, but also FAA and Rublev are contenders for what's under 4. Rune is in the mix too but seems like he lost the feeling he had in last autumn. Ruud is coming down to earth.
I think it depends a lot on the clay season coming up, if he can hold it together, produce some deep runs, or if somebody like Stan sends him packing. He has a lot of opportunities to gain points but I wouldn’t put him in a top 5 over Carlos, Nole, Daniil, Stef, and probably Sascha depending on what he’s got in him this season
Imo he'll end up around 5 and 8. Not sure of how much of an upside he has compared to Alcaraz and Sinner though with Djokovic and Nadal out he's a strong candidate for a decade in top4.
Rune is in an interesting position in that almost half of his current ranking points (1,550 out of 3,325) are all from a single month: October, 2022. He won Paris (1,000 points) and Stockholm (250 points) and made the final of Basel (300 points). The upside is that he's got a lot of opportunities to win points until then, especially in Masters 1000s (other than Paris, his best results last year were three 2nd round appearances), so he's got a good shot at making it into the top 5 over the coming months. The downside is that it's a lot of points to have packed into one month, especially at the end of the season where injuries get more likely. So far he's only 17th in the race this year, so he'll be hoping for a big result soon if he wants to keep his current ranking past October.
Those points are almost as much as a Slam. It’ll be hard to defend them all. If he loses a large portion of his points he’ll likely drop at least 5 places, so he needs to be top 5 in October to have a good chance of staying top 10 at the end of the year.
Top 10. Top 3 is delusional
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#8 to #10. I think there's a good chance he gets leapfrogged by Sinner, too.
6-10
Top 10 but probably not top 5
I’d say no. 9 or 10
I'd say top 15. He still has some maturing to do both physically and mentally. Barring injury, he should have the opportunity to produce some consistent results.
If goes bad like 15-20 if it goes good like 5. Besides alcatraz and djoke a lot of parody from 3 to 15
Parity* I agree with ur assessment, tho i feel like top 3 is locked (carlitos djoko med)
Saw him answered this question on twitter, he said his coach says top 3, and he says he will be higher than that, but I think top 5 is most realistic
Mouratoglou saying top 3? Probably exaggerates just to motivate Rune, no way he really thinks that.
I believe it is his old coach not Mouratoglou
Maybe top 20. Hes got the game but doesnt quite seem that emotionally strong
It would be *stunning* if he didn’t finish top 20
Yeah. His game is big enough that you are probably right. I worry though he becomes like Zverev -
Zverev may be an ass hat, but he’s still a *very* good player (well, coming off injury aside)
He is an ass for sure but he is one of those guys who seems to find ways to lose matches. My sense watching him is that if players can handle his power he is very vulnerable … I dont think he is patient enough.
> I worry though he becomes like Zverev Zverev's spent most of the last 4-5 years in the top 5. Prior to the 2022 injury, he hadn't dropped out of the top 7 in 4 years. If Rune becomes like Zverev, it is very unlikely he drops out of the top 20. Zverev missed most of last season and still hasn't dropped below 20.
Yeah makes money but Zverev is a disappointment. He was supposed to be a champion. But he doesnt have the mentality. That covid thing to me was very illustrative of him I think - show but short on substance
Wonder not worry
Rune has a great chance of being in the top 5. my personal top 5 based on performance or 2023 potential: Alcaraz Sinner Rune Djoko Medvedevev (not in particular order)
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Top 5 probably. Maybe a slam semi, a masters final or another masters title. Should be making a few finals at 250s and 500s and winning a couple as well.
Top 5 seems a little high. Djokovic, Alcaraz, Meddy, and Tsitsipas leave one spot assuming no injuries or whatever (which also applies to Rune). He’s good enough to finish that high, but it’s a BIG ask.
Yeah I agree it is a big ask. May or may not happen
I get so tired by the jaaa thing. This sub apparently cannot get past it. Does not stimulate a serious discussion. I think this sub constantly underestimates him. He has had a tendency to be a little streaky. Especially last year. But his top level is insane. In 2023 he has not had the big results yet. But I feel there is a good chance he will get some finals and maybe trophies. In that case he has a good chance to keep in the top 10. I personally think he will end higher than his current 8th. I don’t think there is any top 10 player he has ever faced he has a negative H2H with. He can beat them all. I don’t think that can be said of many players. I also see signs he is gaining consistency. His biggest issue is the cramps and stamina. I know they are focusing hard on it. It cost him Acapulco (though conditions were extreme mid night). It must be fixable. Edit: He has a negative H2H with Ruud but mostly from meeting him early in the career. Rune will likely be favourite now.
it's a joke. I'm danish, and Rune is by far the player I'm rooting the most for.
I am not offended. I am just overly fatigued with it. Every single time. It is too much in this sub. I am giving up.
chill
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Thank you. I am not offended. Just overly tired of it. It is just in this sub which I think has a lot of interesting discussions but also something else that does not really appeal to me. Something very superficial with overly focus on players looks and lazy jokes.
Djokovic, Alcaraz, Tsitsipas, and Meddy all much more than likely than not finish ahead of him. Maybe Nadal depending on both how strong he comes back and how much he plays. Maybe Zverev depending on when (probably not if but maybe) he gets back into form. After that 🤷♂️ The rankings are a hot mess between 5 and 14 now (pretending Ruud and Meddy are flipped as well as Zverev and Tiafoe for convenience). ??
Would say there’s a fair shot that Rublev and Sinner could also end ahead of him
For sure. Maybe Sinner makes another jump this year, but even if he doesn’t he’s still very good and got more points in the bank already. And Rublev brings it year round like few other players outside the very top.
Tsitsipas seems slowing down a lot. Nadal with clay season about to start seems a lock for top4 anyway. Sinner most of all, but also FAA and Rublev are contenders for what's under 4. Rune is in the mix too but seems like he lost the feeling he had in last autumn. Ruud is coming down to earth.
Tsitsipas is best with a big crowd behind him. 2022 was good for him. Let’s assess him after Clay season.
Top 10, if not top 5
On the toilet paper
Between 1 and 199
I think it depends a lot on the clay season coming up, if he can hold it together, produce some deep runs, or if somebody like Stan sends him packing. He has a lot of opportunities to gain points but I wouldn’t put him in a top 5 over Carlos, Nole, Daniil, Stef, and probably Sascha depending on what he’s got in him this season
He’s too inconsistent outside of indoor hard courts, he will end up 10-20.
He's currently in the top 10
My bad, just meant at seasons end, edited my text.
Imo he'll end up around 5 and 8. Not sure of how much of an upside he has compared to Alcaraz and Sinner though with Djokovic and Nadal out he's a strong candidate for a decade in top4.